- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 00:40:16 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/03/04-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael McCool!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT-IG/WG
04 Mar 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_Mar_2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Johannes_Soega,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster,
Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya,
Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner,
Zoltan_Kis
Regrets
Ege_Korkan
Chair
Sebastian, McCool
Scribe
McCool, kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Guests
2. [5]Minutes from last meeting
3. [6]Quick updates
4. [7]Singapore Govtech PoC/Testbed
5. [8]Connexus/EdgeX
6. [9]REC transition
7. [10]Press release
8. [11]Architecture summary (Lagally may have to leave)
9. [12]Press release again
10. [13]Virtual F2F
11. [14]Helsinki F2F
12. [15]TPAC
13. [16]Scripting TF
14. [17]Security TF
15. [18]Discovery TF
16. [19]Testing
17. [20]Marketing
18. [21]TD
19. [22]Binding
20. [23]AOB
* [24]Summary of Action Items
* [25]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
<kaz> scribenick: McCool
Guests
Sebastian: BSH; Johannes Soega
Johannes: introduction
... I am working with BSH, strategy dept; for connected
products and services
... have iot-enabled devices; more connected devices in future,
need to look at standards
... looking into WoT after contacting Sebastian
Sebastian: Welcome!
Kaz: procedural note; BSH/Johannes needs to be aware of patent
policy
<kaz> [26]W3C Patent Policy
[26] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20170801/
<kaz> [27]PP FAQ
[27] https://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#non-participants
Sebastian: yes; have reviewed; discussion is public; if becomes
part of spec, will need to be royalty-free
Kaz: although today's discussion should not be technical :)
Minutes from last meeting
<kaz> [28]Feb-26 minutes
[28] https://www.w3.org/2020/02/26-wot-minutes.html
Sebastian: reviews minutes at
[29]https://www.w3.org/2020/02/26-wot-minutes.html
... any objections to making minutes public?
... no objections; will make public
[29] https://www.w3.org/2020/02/26-wot-minutes.html
Quick updates
Sebastian: building IoT conference; gave presentation on WoT
... shared slides in wot member list; see email
... also did a live survey about who had heard of WoT
... positive feedback on talk, several were considering joining
... will discuss further in marketing call, including numbers,
etc
next, singapore poc
Singaprore Govtech PoC/Testbed
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: discussion on security infrastructure
... there was some logistics issue as well
... US Daylight Saving Time will start next week
... but we'd like to stick with the current time in Singapore
... will allocate a new WebEx for that
... also had discussion how to update node-wot for OAuth
authentication
... would make a PR for TD for that purpose
... wondering who could work on implementation
... different people with different rights
Koster: do we need to have our own specification?
McCool: we'll work on OAuth for TD
Koster: TLS stuff is not really in scope
McCool: we need to document node-wot for Proof-of-concept
... provisioning using node-wot
Sebastian: we have OAuth in the spec but should clarify the
process flow?
McCool: yeah, need to clarify the code flow
... would have all the flow for OAuth2
... need documentation about node-wot as well
... related to the tutorial session during the online f2f next
week
... need help from the node-wot experts
<inserted> scribenick: McCool
McCool: had discussion with security architecture
... need to look at improving the security implementation in
node-wot
Lagally: what also came up was how to deal with streaming
... eg video streams and web sockets
... at one point we need to assess how much testability we can
guarantee
... for example, for video codecs, consider all the different
kinds of codecs
... it's unreasonable to have testing all those in scope
Sebastian: I think we probably we should set up a separate call
on that
McCool: please join govtech call if possible
Kaz: we should use govtech call to extract requirements; we
should discuss the details in other calls
Lagally: a discussion that should happen in architecture
... we have some use cases to discuss; these should be written
up as well
Connexus/EdgeX
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: working on retail use cases
... including IoT orchestration
... integrating WoT directory as well
... take the requirements first like the Singapore discussion
Lagally: note that David and I have been working on some
initial use case
McCool: ok
... have to look into what is done so far
<inserted> scribenick: McCool
McCool: probably just the tip of the iceberg at this point;
more to come
REC transition
Sebastian: voting results are in the agenda; 17+1 for arch, 17
for TD
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: suggest we add more clarifications for use case
descriptions
... but we've been working on new use cases for v2
... should get back to them and explain the situation
<inserted> scribenick: McCool
McCool: can Lagally reach out to the commentor on the use case?
Lagally: yes, I can do that; via email
Press release
Sebastian: PR from mm
... will ask marcomm to review; others should look at too
... discuss marketing call
<kaz> McCool: two things remaining within the proposed press
release draft
McCool: need quote; need to update figure
Lagally: working on figure
Sebastian: testimonials?
Lagally: working on it
McCool: working on it
Sebastian: deadline is tomorrow
... ... well, not really, but sooner is better
Architecture summary (Lagally may have to leave)
Lagally: looked at use cases, now have govtech and connexus on
the table
Press release again
Sebastian: will discuss in marketing call tomorrow, hopefully
can get someone from marcomm
Virtual F2F
Sebastian: so... cancellation of march f2f was probably a good
thing in the end...
... but we need to finalize the virtual f2f plans
... but we were requested to give a node-wot tutorial
... should allocate a session to give a tutorial on node-wot
... (reviews the current schedule)
<kaz> [30]Virtual F2F draft agenda
[30] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-19_March_2020,_Online
Sebastian: good to have tutorial... when
... is anyone going to IETF?
... it looks like T2TRG workshop will be cancelled, so
Koster: I'm cancelling my IETF trip as well
... this week is also a virtual F2F for OCF
... it's virtual all over the place now
Sebastian: suggest that chairs come up with a concrete plan
McCool: also task forces need to fill in some details
Helsinki F2F
McCool: plan is still to have it at that point
... please do update your registrations as necessary, though
TPAC
<kaz> [31]message on the Chairs list (Member-only)
[31] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2020JanMar/0049.html
McCool: want to know if we have support from the members to
open the plenary day to developers
... any objections?
... hearing none... I'll say we support this
Scripting TF
Zoltan: looked at error handling
... want to factor out the algorithm in the protocol binding
... there are also some small inconsistencies to fix
Sebastian: so what is the plan?
Zoltan: a lot of errors are exposed in different ways
... need to worry about mapping to JS errors, controlling
detail for security, etc
... ongoing work, small changes right now
... new issue about discovery; current scope is larger
... but that will mainly be discussed in the discovery call
Security TF
McCool: discussed reorg, end-to-end security
Discovery TF
<inserted> thing-directory Sebastian mentions Fraunhofer's
project on Thing directory
<sebastian> [32]https://github.com/linksmart/thing-directory
[32] https://github.com/linksmart/thing-directory
McCool: repo reorg, semantic discovery, directorys like DID and
CoRE RD
... need to index and reach out to authors of related projects
Testing
McCool: reorg... still pending
Marketing
McCool: worked on press release
... then github crashed...
... but recreated PR
TD
Taki: PR 880 coap-content format approved; got a number, need
to merge for REC
... issue 851 closed
... proposed REC points to a particular URI for implementation
report; for next version will use a different URI
... related, we need to discuss who we should credit in the
implementation report
... new issue, 882
... will discuss in this week's TD call
... 848, and 842
... read multiple properties; discussion is still ongoing
... 842, there is a bug in javascript of document
... we fixed it in the REC, but need to fix in the master
Binding
Sebastian: no discussion last week
AOB
Kaz: one note, the presentation sent around by sebastian was
too big to be distributed
... so I'll archive it and send around a link
Sebastian: ok
<kaz> [adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
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