[wot-poc] minutes - 19 May 2020

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/05/19-wot-poc-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                                WoT PoC

19 May 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PoC_WebConf#19_May_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Jennifer_Lin, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Prev minutes (from the govtech calls)
         2. [5]Robotics update
         3. [6]Digital twin
         4. [7]City dashboard vs fleet management
         5. [8]PoC TF's affiliation
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     * [10]Summary of Resolutions
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   <scribe> scribenick: kaz

Prev minutes (from the govtech calls)

   [11]Apr-21

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2020/04/21-govtech-minutes.html

   [12]May-5

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2020/05/05-govtech-minutes.html

   McCool: Dibyendu's name is Ghosh

   <McCool> it's Dibyendu Ghosh

   McCool: "ae" is typo for "case"
   ... any objections to approve the minutes other than those
   fixes?

   (none)

   approved

   McCool: May-5
   ... David's nickname is redundant (dezell)
   ... typo of "EdgX" for "EdgeX"
   ... any objections?

   (none)

   approved

Robotics update

   McCool: talked Intel labs
   ... they actually do logistics
   ... so have been trying to find somebody
   ... for robotics
   ... right people at the meeting maybe next week

   Jennifer: any useful platform, middleware, etc., in mind?
   ... we're open to take a look

   McCool: need to establish an official collaboration
   ... and see a good person for that
   ... not rushing

   Jennifer: right now I'm also swamped, so no rush either
   ... maybe in 2 months or so

   McCool: would take some more time to find relevant guys

   Jennifer: possibility of using robots outdoor as well as indoor

   Lagally: what kind of environment in your mind so far?

   Jennifer: some autonomous stack

   <McCool>
   [13]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-52619568/coronavirus
   -robot-dog-enforces-social-distancing-in-singapore-park

     [13] https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-52619568/coronavirus-robot-dog-enforces-social-distancing-in-singapore-park

   McCool: guess whole mechanism for management

   Lagally: kind of inline with the fleet management use case

   McCool: let's add a topic on use case for "city dashboard vs
   fleet management"

   Kaz: regarding robotics, there was a guy working on robotics
   during the wot f2f many years ago

Digital twin

   <mlagally>
   [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CAS
   ES/digital-twin.md

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CASES/digital-twin.md

   Lagally: smart city use case could be also simulated

   Jennifer: interesting question
   ... didn't think about that
   ... can you list some initial questions so that I can ask my
   Team guys?

   Lagally: there are a couple of variants
   ... at:
   [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CAS
   ES/digital-twin.md
   ... which of those variants are of interest?

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CASES/digital-twin.md

   Jennifer: so far the subteam for smart building is looking at
   digital twin approach, so would like to get back to the whole
   Team

   McCool: maybe the robotics Team is also using some kind of
   simulation mechanism

   Lagally: possibly there are various simulation mechanisms based
   on the vendors

   <mlagally>
   [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CAS
   ES

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CASES

   Jennifer: could invite the robotics Team lead to this call

   Lagally: would suggest we invite that person to the next call
   if possible

   Kaz: a guy from a Japanese Member was working on automotive
   digital twin service, maybe interested in this use case
   ... can ask him to join this call and the use case call

   McCool: yeah, let's ask him to try the next call

City dashboard vs fleet management

   [17]Fleet management use case

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/435

   McCool: (adds comments to the use case)
   ... not superceded by #489
   ... since it seems that this use case covers things like
   logistics, delivery routes, etc.

   [18]McCool's added comments

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/435#issuecomment-630794004

   Lagally: there are various stakeholders

   McCool: maybe would narrow to fleet management logistics first,
   and think about the other parts separately
   ... (and then adds another comment)
   ... this issue 435 is "logistics fleet management"

   [19]McCool's additional suggestion

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/435#issuecomment-630795401

   Lagally: will look into that

   McCool: Jennifer, does it seem good to you?
   ... we need to look into all the use cases
   ... including security ones and discovery ones
   ... starting with the next week
   ... (mentions a security use case on OAuth2)

   [20]security issue on OAuth2 device flow

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/issues/173

   [21]scripting issue on OAuth2 code flow

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/214

   McCool: there is general discussion on how to deal with OAuth2
   during the other TFs' calls

   Jennifer: will take a look at that

   McCool: wondering if there are any issues on proprietary or
   non-OAuth2 key management

PoC TF's affiliation

   <McCool> proposal: This call (the PoC TF) call is an IG call
   and follows the IG IP policy.

   Lagally: what is the pros/cons?

   Kaz: the main point is whether the deriverable of this TF would
   be a Rec track document or not, and my understanding is NO. So
   considering this TF part of the IG is reasonable, and that is
   my original understanding.
   ... however, we were not clear enough so far, so let's check
   with the whole groups during the main call

   McCool: makes sense

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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