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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 10 June 2020

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:53:55 +0900
Message-ID: <87v9iydsek.wl-ashimura@w3.org>
To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/06/10-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, David!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                               WoT-IG/WG

10 Jun 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#10_June_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool,
          David_Ezell, dezell, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
          Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis,
          Ege_Korkan

   Regrets
          Sebastian

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          David

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Minutes approval
         2. [5]ITU-T Liaison
         3. [6]WISHI Call
         4. [7]Use Cases questionnaire
         5. [8]CoAP RDF
         6. [9]outstanding votes
         7. [10]f2f meetings
         8. [11]f2f agenda
         9. [12]TF reports
     * [13]Summary of Action Items
     * [14]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <kaz> scribenick: dezell

Minutes approval

   <kaz> [15]June-3

     [15] https://www.w3.org/2020/06/03-wot-minutes.html

   Approved

ITU-T Liaison

   McCool: proposal with W3M that we publish some standards as ITU
   standards.

WISHI Call

   McCool: Next is June 30
   ... I've cleaned up presentations on the web site organized by
   date

Use Cases questionnaire

   <kaz> scribenick: dezell_

   <mlagally> proposal: approve sending out the use case
   questionnaire to WOT-IG/WG members and other stakeholders.

   (Discussion of new use case organization)

   <kaz> [16]Use Cases questionnaire

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/

   Lagally: how long should we keep consideration open?

   <mlagally> proposal: approve sending out the use case
   questionnaire at
   [17]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/ to
   WOT-IG/WG members and external stakeholders.

     [17] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/

   McCool: use cases maybe on Thursday at the f2f (two weeks
   hence)
   ... I suggest we leave it up 3 weeks and finalize after the f2f

   <mlagally> proposal: approve sending out the use case
   questionnaire at
   [18]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/ to
   WOT-IG/WG members and external stakeholders.

     [18] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/

   Resolution passes.

   RESOLUTION: approve sending out the use case questionnaire at
   [19]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/ to
   WOT-IG/WG members and external stakeholders.

     [19] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/

CoAP RDF

   Daniel: work by sebastian and others.

   McCool: seems like discovery, and related work.

   Daniel: it's really about the ontology
   ... protocol binding

Outstanding votes

   McCool: we are especially interested in the first two.
   ... we should clean up our schedule before the f2f

F2F meetings

   McCool: June 8 workshop is done, plugfest coming up.

   <McCool>
   [20]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2020_2nd#WoT_Plu
   gfest

     [20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2020_2nd#WoT_Plugfest

   McCool: need a webex
   ... we will start one hour early on the first day. 8AM eastern
   June 15.
   ... meeting logistics are still in flux.
   ... would like to cancel regular calls during the plugfest and
   f2f.
   ... so we did NOT cancel all.
   ... Request: TF leads should update the wiki page about what is
   cancelled.
   ... Main Call: cancel 24 June (f2f). Cancel 17 June (plugfest).
   No objections.

   Resolution passed: cancel 24 June (f2f) and 17 June (plugfest)

   Lagally: calendar cancelations are difficult to understand.

   McCool: use the wiki page - outlook invitations are just a
   convenience.

   Lagally: the cancellations don't work with the Apple calendar.

   McCool: let's please use the wiki page.

   <mlagally> mlagally: For the avoidance of doubt: There will be
   regular architecture calls during the plugfest week, i.e. next
   week.

   McCool: we need to decide about our post f2f meeting - normally
   we cancel.
   ... I suggest we keep the main meeting, but cancel the others.

   RESOLUTION: we will have the main WoT call after the f2f, but
   other meetings will be canceled.

   McCool: (note wot-marketing is not quite clear)

   Kaz: I was expecting a call tomorrow for architecture. And use
   cases?

   McCool: no use cases tomorrow

   Lagally: and tomorrow is a holiday, so no architecture tomorrow
   either.

   McCool: everything is cancelled tomorrow.
   ... next week architecture and discovery will be held, not sure
   about the rest.

   <inserted> (no wot-related calls tomorrow on June 11, but
   there'll be an architecture call on 18)

   McCool: main call week after the f2f.

F2F agenda

   Kaz: I've sent a f2f notice to the group.

   McCool: need to add to the page.
   ... 22-26 June 8am-11am et.

   <kaz> [21]F2F Agenda

     [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2020_2nd#WoT_F2F_Agenda

   McCool: where shall we put the presentation materials?
   ... I'd prefer to put them in the newly organized master list,
   but put the date format so they sort, and then link from the
   agenda.

   <dezell> +1 to putting them in by date

   Lagally: prefer a subdirectory for the event

   McCool: I'll do that - directory to have a date in front (like
   the rest)
   ... who is doing "Thing Description" on Friday? I assume
   Sebastian.
   ... Lifecycle Michael Lagally and Zoltan

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention he has added links for webex
   coordinate to the f2f wiki

   Kaz: I have linked the plugfest/f2f webexes to the Wiki.

TF reports

   Zoltan: we need clarifications in the TD spec.

   McCool: we missed some security and discovery meetings.

   <Zakim> zkis, you wanted to discuss Scripting

   Lagally: not sure everyone will be on the call tomorrow -
   people should contact me if they need help.

   <McCool> plugfest repo:
   [22]https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/events/2020.
   06.Online

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/events/2020.06.Online

   Lagally: TDs are available.

   <McCool> plugfest repo:
   [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/events/2020.
   06.Online

     [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/master/events/2020.06.Online

   Lagally: I will provide more details on the next call.

   McCool: anything new on use cases?

   Lagally: no, I've been out.
   ... put things in the old repo for now, and we'll shift before
   the f2f.

   McCool: assume the move with be the first day of the f2f

   Ege: TD binding templates there have been some submissions, and
   how to describe the location of the TD.

   McCool: please put links to important issues in the agenda
   itself.

   <kaz> [24]issue 899

     [24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/899

   Lagally: it's easy for new people to get lost in our GitHub
   repos.
   ... I propose the README in the main GitHub repo have some
   directions.
   ... a table of repos and links.

   Ege: I support that, and also an explanation of the repos and
   (e.g.) why there are issues left unresolved.

   McCool: "wot" is stuff we've done, "marketing" is
   presentations, etc.
   ... and yes, we need to clean up the issues.

   Reconvene in 8 minutes for PlugFest.

   Adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [25]approve sending out the use case questionnaire at
       https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-uc-priority-202005/ to
       WOT-IG/WG members and external stakeholders.
    2. [26]we will have the main WoT call after the f2f, but other
       meetings will be canceled.

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