- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 10:53:06 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2020/01/22-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking the mintues, Michael McCooL! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT-IG/WG 22 Jan 2020 [2]Agenda [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#22_Jan_2020 Attendees Present Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Takahisa_Suzuki, Tomoaki_Mizushima, David_Ezell, Zoltan_Kis, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Taki_Kamiya Regrets Dave_Raggett Chair Sebastian, McCool Scribe McCool, kaz Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Agenda 2. [5]Use of images from W3C spec 3. [6]Task force minutes public, review drafts, one-week rule 4. [7]MEIG call; note WoT content will start 30m past the hour 5. [8]Start 5m past instead of 10m past 6. [9]WG charter 7. [10]Proposed REC publication 8. [11]Binding template publication 9. [12]Press release 10. [13]F2F planning 11. [14]Calls 12. [15]Break, then plugfest call in at 15 past * [16]Summary of Action Items * [17]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <kaz> scribenick: McCool <scribe> agenda:[18]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#22_J an_2020 [18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#22_Jan_2020 Agenda Sebastian: points out we have put down dates for future meetings ... noting in particular the joint meeting with MEIG Feb 4 AND the WoT call on Feb 5 <kaz> scribenick: kaz <ege> Haven't managed to make my mic work but I have recently seen this W3C Community Group: [19]https://www.w3.org/community/bdns/. We can maybe have a quick look if there is time left :) [19] https://www.w3.org/community/bdns/ McCool: planning to make presentation during the web&networks call on Feb 13 ... about edge computing ... had talked about the topic during the scripting call and the security call ... maybe we could schedule an additional call as well <inserted> scribenick: McCool McCool: suggest we discuss presentations for MEIG in the next main call McCool: gave update on Edge Apps and Feb 13 pres for Web and Networks IG Use of images from W3C spec Kaz: quick answer is that can reuse images with attribution McCool: is there an example for an attribution Kaz: can just be the title of the spec and URL of the source document. can look into the W3C license document again if needed. Task force minutes public, review drafts, one-week rule McCool: each TF should approve minutes from last session at the start of each meeting Lagally: it would be good if people could raise any concerns before call by email ... so minute reviews can be quick MEIG call; note WoT content will start 30m past the hour Proposal: starting the WoT joint discussion 30 mins later: 7:30am PST, 10:30am EST, 3:30pm GMT, 4:30pm CET, 5:30pm EET, 12:30am JST will makes it (1) 30 mins for Media-specific discussion (Bullet Chatting) and then (2) 60 mins for WoT discussion McCool: you can join earlier if you want, but not necessary; can join 30m past the hour ... also, NHK content will be included in status update ... kaz and I will coordinate with them Start 5m past instead of 10m past Sebastian: any objections? ... no objections, so let's do it; applies to all TFs David: please send an email out announcing this policy... Sebastian: yes, good idea WG charter Sebastian: still in progress, but hope it gets approved this week or next Kaz: have already sent a change notification/thanks message to all the reviewers ... and am asking the W3M for approval ... should be approved by next week Proposed REC publication McCool: some diffs, need to make sure that editors review and check <kaz> [20]TD diffs [20] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/publication/pr/diff.html <kaz> [21]Arch diffs [21] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/pr/diff.html Sebastian: for TD, will clarify on Friday McCool: please make sure the references are current and correct as well ... I noticed some dates got reverted to old versions ... I suspect the respec database needs to be updated Binding template publication Ege: resolution to publish reached ... but still not published Kaz: need to create a static version; prep is ongoing still Sebastian: when is this expected? Kaz: probably all three docs at once next week Press release Sebastian: have generated talking points, now waiting for MarComm to create a draft for us to review ... but we also need testimonials; request to everyone willing to generate a testimonial McCool: right now just lining up who can do testimonials ... actual testimonial only needed after draft Kaz: note that actual REC will be out in 4-5 weeks; we need to have testimonials well before then F2F planning Sebastian: March F2F meeting has problem with the host ... question is, what do we do now? ... no real alternative on the table right now ... had a survey last week trying to pick the best time and asking for other possible hosts <kaz> [22]March f2f questionnaire results [22] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wotf2f-202003/results Sebastian: no realistic alternative host options provided ... so propose that we cancel the physical F2F in March, but have a virtual one ... third week in March seems to be the most open ... propose we reserve this to have a set of extended meetings Kaz: have been checking with Keio. ... there is a possibility we can have a F2F there if we really want to have one in March. McCool: if we reserve a conference room in Keio, can we reserve it in the evening? Kaz: conference rooms only available 9:00-18:00 at Keio ... also we can't make March 21st because it's a bank holiday in Japan ... note that we're encouraged to make announcement 8 weeks in advance, but there is only 7 weeks now ... so from a procedural viewpoint makes sense to cancel McCool: it seems we have no choice but to cancel ... so can focus on what we need to do to make virtual F2F work Lagally: maybe we can just extend the current timeslots ... so the question is what will be on the agenda? McCool: I can think of several topics we need to discuss ... agree that we can defer plugfest and focus on meetings this time Kaz: ok with concentrating on discussion; but wondering about test framework ... and guideline work for plugfest framework prior to the actual plugfest in June ... some packaged libraries, frameworks, etc for plugfests in general Ege: no new specs to test; but new protocols, possible ... some of these are hard to test in virtual plugfest ... but there are some new things, like events, OPC-UA, etc. ... need some prototypes ... before talking about cancellable actions, need some concrete implementation experience McCool: so in summary, let's spend our time planning for the June plugfest and have a really good plugfest then Sebastian: might still be useful to have a reserved slot, just in case McCool: suggest we defer more discussion on this until next call Sebastian: we do need a resolution on F2F now proposal: will have a virtual F2F, but not a physical meeting Sebastian: and also take our existing timeslots and extend them, whenever possible ... and we will aim for the week of March 16 ... looking at doodle responses, only one person could not make week of March 16 ... but seems that would be ok for a virtual meeting proposal: virtual F2F meeting the week of March 16 with extended meetings RESOLUTION: virtual F2F meeting the week of March 16 with extended meetings Calls Sebastian: plugfest/testing call today, marketing call tomorrow at scheduled time (same as plugfest call, but tomorrow) ... discovery call doodle, please note McCool: move marketing to its thursday slot going forward ... but may have to occasionally cancel when it conflicts with a W3C project review call Sebastian: basically going back to original time Zoltan: scripting meeting, presentation by McCool on Edge Apps ... for computing and iot orchestration ... need to extract some scripting use cases from that ... also discussed issues around values returned (or not) upon writes ... also, would like to invite Ege to next call so we can discuss issues submitted by him Lagally: architecture; split call. ... reviewed lifecycle discussion; going to revisit in tomorrow's call ... looked at use cases, including multimodal use cases from previous W3C work ... will continue discussion of those in next call ... would encourage people from Europe to attend both calls ... especially important for use case discussion McCool: security reviewed issues, including two new ones on privacy threat model and MUDs ... also briefly discussed edge apps Taki: in TD call, just went over recent changes in prep for PR publication ... and then discussed TD timing and created doodle poll McCool: wasn't the conclusion was best not to change it? Sebastian: we may have to revisit later, depending on who joins ... a little concerned that Michael Koster cannot join TD call in its current slot ... but for now will stick with it Ege: binding templates, no updates ... but for future, need to redo poll to understand what protocols people are interested in ... there was an issue on this to gather input; we should do this again Koster: we have some learning now and we should incorporate that ... some hybrid of declarative ... also, an update on my conflicts, I can still make about half of the TD slots even where it currently is ... a possible conflict with other activities has been resolved Sebastian: reminds me, maybe we should organize a meeting with CHIP during the virtual F2F McCool: we can also aim to set up some other meeting with external parties ... Singapore, ODM, EdgeX, etc. Break, then plugfest call in at 15 past <kaz> [adjourned] Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions 1. [23]virtual F2F meeting the week of March 16 with extended meetings [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by David Booth's [24]scribe.perl version 1.154 ([25]CVS log) $Date: 2020/01/27 12:05:13 $ [24] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [25] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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