[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 2 December 2020

avaible at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael Lagally!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               WoT-IG/WG

02 Dec 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#2_December_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_Lagally, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool,
          Jennifer_Lin, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Ege_Korkan, Jack_Dickinson, Michael_Koster,
          Ryuichi_Matsukura

   Regrets
          Dave_Raggett

   Chair
          Sebastian

   Scribe
          mlagally, kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Publication status
         2. [5]Next releases
         3. [6]New slot for Use cases
         4. [7]ITU-T liaison
         5. [8]MiniApps
         6. [9]minutes of last call
         7. [10]TPAC minutes
         8. [11]ASDF calls
         9. [12]Joint call with OPC-UA
        10. [13]TF reports
        11. [14]AOB
     * [15]Summary of Action Items
     * [16]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> (discussion on drinking beer and wine on the Christmas
   day!)

   <kaz> scribenick: mlagally

   Agenda today: Some updates on document status
   ... plans for the next months, next events, edi(TD)or tool

Publication status

   Sebastian: We released 4 FPWD: Architecture, TD, Profile,
   Discovery
   ... also we published the Scripting API as WG note

   Kaz: I made some editorial fixes for the publication, need to
   create MRs for them

Next releases

   Lagally: Use Cases document planned for February

   McCool: target date for pre-CR drafts is May 1st
   ... Last possible CR transition is December 9th

   <kaz> [17]fyi, milestones calculator

     [17] https://w3c.github.io/spec-releases/milestones/

   McCool: we only target 1.1 version, no time for 2.0 in this
   charter period
   ... decided in TF calls to push it out beyond December

   Sebastian: For TD we discussed 2.0 plans, no final decision
   yet, but want to focus on 1.1. version
   ... almost impossible to have 2.0 in time, propose to push in
   next charter

   McCool: we could try to have FPWD of 2.0 specs in December
   ... if we get a charter extension we might be able to do it

   Lagally: We should not plan for a charter extension right now

   <kaz> kaz: +1

   McCool: agree in principle

   Sebastian: +1

   McCool: We could only do it if we work in parallel on 1.1 and
   2.0, however focus on 1.1 would be better

New slot for Use cases

   <kaz> [18]Doodle

     [18] https://doodle.com/poll/9ctgut8eq3cez5zm

   scribenick: kaz

   Lagally: sent a reminder to the expected/potential attendees

   McCool: we'll start the new time/date next week?

   scribenick: mlagally

   Lagally: yes

   McCool: will update the calendar invite then

   Lagally: we tentatively pick Tuesday starting next week.

   Kaz: some of the JP Members have problems with joining the call
   regularly regardless of the times, they could adjust but would
   like to know the agenda beforehand. would like to discuss how
   to solve the issue during the next Use Cases call.

ITU-T liaison

   Kaz: ITU-T Liaison - no news

MiniApps

   <sebastian>
   [19]https://www.w3.org/2020/11/proposed-miniapps-wg-charter.htm
   l

     [19] https://www.w3.org/2020/11/proposed-miniapps-wg-charter.html

   Kaz: new WG proposal on MiniApps, all AC reps are requested to
   vote / comment by December 20th

   Ege: They presented at TPAC, Framework for mobile apps based on
   Web technologies

   Kaz: Client/Server model, runtime environment by the super app
   (small browser) and the mini apps (web applications consisting
   of HTML, CSS and JS), could become a servient for WoT

   Sebastian: We are not listed in their charter as a group to
   coordinate with
   ... I will provide a comment as AC rep to the charter

minutes of last call

   <inserted> [20]Nov-25

     [20] https://www.w3.org/2020/11/25-wot-minutes.html

   McCool: If you have issues we should discuss with other groups,
   please label them accordingly
   ... specifically spatial data
   ... I will try to get on their agenda, we plan to have a
   regular meeting with them

   -> No objection, minutes are approved

TPAC minutes

   TPAC minutes for Use Case and Web and Network calls still need
   to be reviewed

   <kaz> [21]WNIG part

     [21] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig

   McCool: let's review web and network now
   ... <gives a quick summary of the call>

   Kaz: I don't think the minutes are problematic

   <sebastian>
   [22]https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig

     [22] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig

   McCool: I will review together with Sudeep, will mark as
   reviewed afterwards
   ... we also need to review APA section
   ... will reach out to APA guys, we can decide on December 9th.

   Lagally: Please review use case section before next main call,
   we would like to conclude the TPAC minutes in December 9th

   Sebastian: we will have to review the marketing section in the
   marketing call
   ... this process is a bit inefficient

   McCool: Let's do a resolution next week
   ... will ask for review until next main call via email

ASDF call

   SDF meeting coming up mid of December

   <sebastian> [23]https://doodle.com/poll/xbwnu88is4k7hsxz

     [23] https://doodle.com/poll/xbwnu88is4k7hsxz

   <kaz> [24]Niklas Widell's message

     [24] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-wg/2020Nov/0035.html

   Koster: We have sent a doodle poll, time has been decided, call
   will be at 2pm UTC on Dec 14th
   ... SDF is completely open WG, guithub repo, draft, will send
   some official pointers

   Kaz: there's a partial overlap with the discovery call

   Koster: we had a kickoff, this is the first interim meeting
   ... we will talk about features for 1.1. We have some solid
   proposals already

   Sebastian: A student of mine has created a converter between
   SDF and TD

   McCool: we canceled discovery for the 14th already

Joint call with OPC-UA

   Sebastian: We had a call with OPC-UA on TD validation, they
   define some semantic web based tools to validate specifications
   against OPC-UA datamodel
   ... we could work together on a binding document to describe an
   OPC-UA interface for binding
   ... follow-up is planned, they also asked for more material,
   will share some links with them
   ... hope to develop concrete plan for next steps

   Koster: Was this a WoT/UPC-UA meeting?

   Sebastian: We met with the validation TF

   Koster: I would also like to participate in this

   <sebastian>
   [25]https://opcfoundation.org/news/opc-foundation-news/w3c-and-
   opcf-to-integrate-opc-ua-into-the-web-of-things/

     [25] https://opcfoundation.org/news/opc-foundation-news/w3c-and-opcf-to-integrate-opc-ua-into-the-web-of-things/

   McCool: Note that this is the "validation" group, there are
   other groups working on the information model

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask about the difference between the
   OPC-UA datamodel and TD

   Kaz: do you want to continue this discussion in the TD calls?

   Sebastian: maybe, we should work on the collaboration
   ... Schaeffler and Ericsson, Hitachi and Fujitsu is also
   interested in active collaburation with OPC foundation

   Lagally: would be better to have a page for new comers with all
   the correct links

   <mjk> +1 create a newcomer page with all the correct links to
   the github repos

TF reports

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   Daniel: scripting - celebrated the publication of the updated
   Note, discussed validation on the directory as well

   McCool: security - schedule updates and discussion on issues

   Sebastian: marketing - discussion with Coralie

   McCool: plugfest - schedule updates

   Sebastian: TD - WoT Web page, 1.1 publication, 2.0 roadmap,
   issues on Thing Model, etc.

   Lagally: architecture - schedule updates, discussion on
   interoperability

AOB

   McCool: no PlugFest call

   Sebastian: talk with you during the TD call!

   Lagally: regrets for TD call today

   [main call adjourned; no PlugFest call; TD call in one hour]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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