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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 11 March 2020

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:22:43 +0900
Message-ID: <87blobvfek.wl-ashimura@w3.org>
To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/03/11-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                               WoT-IG/WG

11 Mar 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_Mar_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Taki_Kamiya, Takahisa_Suzuki, Zoltan_Kis,
          Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch,
          Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Ege_Korkan

   Regrets

   Chair
          Sebastian, McCool

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Agenda
         2. [5]Invited guests
         3. [6]Review minutes
         4. [7]Singapore Govtech
         5. [8]Conexxus Retail/EdgeX
         6. [9]REC transition
         7. [10]Press release
         8. [11]Virtual F2F
         9. [12]Helsinki f2f
        10. [13]TPAC planning
        11. [14]TF reports
     * [15]Summary of Action Items
     * [16]Summary of Resolutions
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   <scribe> scribenick: kaz

Agenda

   Sebastian: would like to mention we're thinking about two
   possible guests for the future calls
   ... (goes through the agenda topics)
   ... anything else to be added?

   (none)

Invited guests

   Sebastian: we got an application for Invited Expert from Amelie
   Gyrard
   ... we're going to invite her to one of the WoT main calls
   ... probably in 2 weeks due to the online meeting next week
   ... she is a semantic expert
   ... also another guest from Bosch
   ... would invite him to the discovery discussion during the
   online meeting next week
   ... has been working on an Eclipse project

Review minutes

   [17]Mar-4 minutes

     [17] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/04-wot-minutes.html

   Sebastian: we had a guest from BSH
   ... my own report from conference
   ... Conexxus/EdgeX
   ... use cases discussion from Architecture
   ... press release update
   ... virtual f2f planning
   ... Helsinki meeting, TPAC meeting
   ... any problems?

   (none)

   Sebastian: approved and will be published

Singapore Govtech

   Sebastian: new WebEx for the joint call
   ... at 9pm SIngapore
   ... mainly topics on node-wot
   ... the idea is we'll have a meeting next Thursday
   ... about node-wot tutorial
   ... special slot during the online meeting

   McCool: Singapore meeting happens every Tuesday
   ... but we'll have our online meeting next week
   ... so the suggestion is having the node-wot discussion on
   Thursday next week

   Daniel: Singapore call was originally planned as a bi-weekly
   call?

   McCool: kind of
   ... these days happens weekly

Conexxus Retail/EdgeX

   McCool: planning a PoC
   ... Intel retail is involved
   ... the plan is to integrate WoT with open retail initiative
   ... add WoT metadata to EdgeX
   ... also discuss retail use cases
   ... next week we'll allocate a session on Wednesday for further
   discussion

   Sebastian: interesting and cool
   ... questions?

   McCool: think EdgeX is quite similar to Mozilla's platform
   ... but focused on industry/retail purposes

REC transition

   Sebastian: got a comment for the AC review
   ... suggestion for the use case section of wot-architecture
   ... Lagally is expected to handle it
   ... need to check with him

   McCool: can send an email

   Sebastian: also can talk about it during the architecture call
   ... Kaz is generating static HTML for publication

   [18]Architecture draft

     [18] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/rec/

   [19]TD draft

     [19] https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/publication/rec/

   Sebastian: would suggest the TF leaders check the diffs during
   the next calls
   ... any comments?

   (none)

Press release

   Sebastian: we've generated a draft version

   [20]draft press release

     [20] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/pressrelease-wot-rec.html

   Sebastian: but the diagram is not correctly displayed on
   Firefox...

   Kaz: maybe we could use SVG instead of PNG?

   McCool: Chrome might have problem with characters within SVG
   ... let me check

   Sebastian: (goes through the draft press release)
   ... great to have a rich set of testimonials here
   ... please review this and raise an issue if there is any
   problem
   ... we'll discuss it during the Marketing call tomorrow

   McCool: there is still missing quote within the main body
   ... will have discussion with W3M

   Sebastian: ok

   Kaz: regarding the issues, would be better to put "press
   release" label to the issues on the press release

   Sebastian: good idea

Virtual F2F

   [21]Draft agenda for the virtual f2f

     [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-19_March_2020,_Online

   Sebastian: (goes through the draft agenda)
   ... Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday
   ... DID, eCl@ss, Conexxus/EdgeX
   ... Koster, can you talk about CHIP and OpenDM?

   Koster: yes

   Sebastian: cool
   ... then topics on Marketing, Testing and Planning
   ... also Thursday
   ... idea on node-wot tutorial
   ... nice to have a session about how to use it
   ... would like to invite Jennifer from Singapore Govtech
   ... we've not assigned concrete slot yet, though
   ... need to ask Jennifer about her availability
   ... everybody is welcome
   ... questions?

   Kaz: maybe would be better to make decision about the starting
   time for Thursday. at least as an initial suggestion

   Sebastian: what about 1pm Europe (9pm Japan, 8am EDT)

   Daniel: why don't we ask people about their
   interest/availability

   McCool: my suggestion is same time as the other day as an
   initial plan

   Kaz: can allocate a 4-day call at 20-24 JST (13-17 CET)

   McCool: note that the possible slot is quite narrow

   Sebastian: ok
   ... then go for the initial plan
   ... any other comments?

   (none)

   Kaz: BTW, regarding the node-wot tutorial, when I asked NHK
   guys about their availability, they mentioned they had some
   ideas/opinions/questions about nod-wot
   ... would it be ok if they raise an issue on GitHub or send it
   by email?

   Daniel: definitely ok

   McCool: yes

Helsinki f2f

   [22]Helsinki f2f wiki

     [22] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-11_June_2020,_Helsinki

   McCool: still ongoing

   [23]f2f registration

     [23] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/wot-f2f-202006/

   McCool: but should think about the remote participation
   ... myself can't make the reservation for a while
   ... the situation should be going to more stable in June

   Sebastian: yeah

   Zoltan: note that conferences even later days have been
   cancelled

   McCool: yeah, we should think about the possibility of virtual
   meeting

   Kaz: there is a question about remote attendance within the
   registration site

   McCool: if many people prefer remote participation, we should
   do it as a virtual meeting

   Sebastian: I basically prefer a physical meeting, though

   Koster: we collected good feedback during the OCF meeting last
   week
   ... note CHIP creates small groups for each topic
   ... we could make progress regardless of whether it's a
   physical meeting or not
   ... IETF107 was cancelled yesterday

   (some discussion on travel policy within companies)

   McCool: it's getting more and more difficult to have a physical
   meeting...
   ... the bottom line is that we should get prepared for a
   virtual meeting

   Sebastian: make sure we should not make reservation yet
   ... at least until early April

   Zoltan: think virtual meeting would be more promising

   (some discussion about virtual meeting setting)

   Kaz: let's make the decision in April
   ... please note that we got a non-Member applicant for the T2T
   workshop
   ... we should let Ari and Carsten about this

   Koster: yeah

   McCool: also we should ask them about possibility of virtual
   meeting for the T2TRG workshop

TPAC planning

   Sebastian: TPAC planned in October
   ... after that, Siemens is willing to host a (physical) f2f
   meeting in Pune, India

TF reports

   Sebastian: quickly

   Zoltan: Scripting
   ... updates on scripting
   ... cross reference
   ... how to throw errors
   ... Daniel reviewed it
   ... fixed various points
   ... also discussion on an issue with TD TF
   ... another discussion on Singapore govtech use case
   ... device lifecycle discussion
   ... need to do some prioritization for the scripting session
   next week

   McCool: Security
   ... input on end-to-end security from Oliver
   ... issues and PRs
   ... also OAuth2 to be included again
   ... and DID things
   ... very important to control integrity
   ... DID's proof document by the CG
   ... trying to clarify how to use it
   ... Discovery
   ... not much happen due to the time change
   ... review the minutes and closed the call
   ... we should have better mechanism to share information on
   calls with the invited guests
   ... PlugFest/Testing
   ... after this call

   Sebastian: Marketing
   ... discussion on the press release
   ... continue the discussion tomorrow
   ... Architecture

   Kaz: media-related use cases

   Sebastian: TD
   ... issues and PRs
   ... document for testing
   ... acknowledge section
   ... IANA registration results
   ... CoAP ID, etc.
   ... also some discussion on hypermedia handling, etc.
   ... would review the recent diff between the latest HTML and
   the PR version on Friday, 13th
   ... and some more topics
   ... Binding
   ... Koster or Ege was not there
   ... who to take care the ontology is a question
   ... to be discussed on Friday, 13th

   McCool: FYI, Manu's participation in the virtual meeting is
   confirmed now!

   Sebastian: (updates the virtual f2f agenda)
   ... let's have nice discussion next week during the virtual
   meeting!

   Kaz: PlugFest/Testing call today after this?

   McCool: yes
   ... 15mins past the hour on the same line

   [WoT main call adjourned; move to #wot-pf]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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