[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 31 July 2019

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Sebastian!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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                               WoT-IG/WG

31 Jul 2019

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#31_July_2019

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kathy_Giori, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
          Toru_Kawaguchi, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima, Takahisa_Suzuki, Ryuichi_Matsukura

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          Sebastian, Kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]IG Charter updates
         2. [5]Spec Review feedback
         3. [6]TF reports
         4. [7]WG Charter discussion
         5. [8]PlugFest
         6. [9]Upcoming f2f after TPAC?
         7. [10]TPAC f2f
         8. [11]Next call?
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
     * [13]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz_> scribenick: sebastian

IG Charter updates

   McCool merged some inputs from A. Bird and Wendy

   <kaz_> [14]Wendy's comments

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/835

   <kaz_> [15]Alan's comments

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/838

   <kaz_> [16]Sebastian's comment

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz_

   Sebastian: would add eClass to the external org section
   ... Markus Reigl from Siemens also would like to join the WoT
   call at some point, e.g., next week

   McCool: why don't we let people review it for one week, and
   discuss it next week?

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   McCool: let's review the IG Charter in general

   Sebastian: ok

   <inserted> scribenick: sebastian

   Sebastian presented the PR
   [17]https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846 about OPC UA text
   updates + introduce eCl@ss as new organization

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846

   Markus Reigl would be happy to introduce eCl@ss in this round.
   we should shedule this after the vecation time

Spec Review feedback

   McCool give some feedback about the PING meeting during IETF
   meeting

   PING sees three concerns with WoT: 1) use cases 2) need control
   of the TDs 3) the ID term in TD

   McCool sees less technical concerns more policy aspects

   Oliver Pfaff from Siemens will support in the future about
   security / privacy topics

TF reports

   next topic TF reports

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   Sebastian: TD
   ... talked about namespace issues
   ... discussion about missing explanation
   ... how the namespace structure should look like
   ... relation to the other documents, etc.
   ... Victor will take care of the issue
   ... the other issue was merging remaining PRs, etc.
   ... nothing much for the TD spec itself
   ... but discussed Binding document and ontology document
   ... Koster, anything?

   Koster: missed last two calls due to other assignment
   ... don't have any active topics
   ... should work on vocabulary but it's a long-term topic

   McCool: do you want to give some update on SDF and One Data
   Model next week?

   Koster: yes

   McCool: (adds "SDF and One Data Model" to the "Future Topics"
   section of the main call agenda)
   ... will not be available for a while

   Sebastian: maybe need to cancel the upcoming TD calls in August
   ... will talk with Taki

   McCool: Architecture?

   <sebastian> architecture on July 25 was canceled

WG Charter discussion

   [18]minutes

     [18] https://www.w3.org/2019/07/25-wot-minutes.html

   [19]Doodle poll

     [19] https://doodle.com/poll/iuurpkccr9kfgv9u

   Kaz: we had some initial discussion on Jul 25. the main topic
   was WG topics based on Lagally's slides (which is based on
   Matthias' slides)
   ... next meeting will be decided based on the doodle poll

   McCool: need Lagally for further discussion
   ... also should move up priority topics

   <sebastian> Oracle has introduced new topics that require a
   group consensus.

PlugFest

   McCool: would like to think about online PlugFest/TestFest
   ... good opportunity for collaborating with others
   ... also would suggest we consider to join IETF Hackathons
   ... upcoming IETF106 in Singapore, Nov. 16-17
   ... note it's quite soon after TPAC
   ... if Mozilla can't make TPAC in Fukuoka, any possibility for
   IETF106 Hackathon in Singapore in Nov?

   Kathy: some chance
   ... including Singapore
   ... ending November 20

   McCool: Hackathon will be the beginning of the IETF week (=Nov.
   16-17)
   ... maybe you can check if it would work
   ... and the next one is IETF107 in Vancouver, March 21-22, 2020
   ... possibly collocated with our f2f
   ... in Vancouver somewhere

   Kathy: Mozilla has an office in Vancouver

   Kaz: also wondering about online PlugFest prior to TPAC 2019 in
   Fukuoka

   Kathy: sounds possible

   McCool: we set up VPN for last online PlugFest
   ... we can find an expert for the setting
   ... we need to set up the environment quickly for TPAC
   ... do you know somebody who is good at VPN?

   Kathy: not really, but can try OAuth, etc.

   McCool: can understand you have a portal
   ... we can try connection on some allocated day
   ... some orchestration of WoT and Mozilla

   Kathy: can act as access point for the future PlugFest

   McCool: actual date for the online PlugFest
   ... who/what to show up
   ... what would be the plan?

   Kaz: good question
   ... we need to identify concrete schedule

   McCool: based on the scenario discussion (on the PlugFest
   preparation page)

   Kaz: we should start discussion on the concrete schedule
   including the online PlugFest shortly, e.g., next week

   [20]PlugFest preparation page

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka/README.md

   McCool: there is a table including devices on the PlugFest
   preparation page above
   ... added Intel device as well
   ... Zigbee devices
   ... you can add Mozilla's devices

   Kathy: ok

   Kaz: note that Toumura-san has just added a diagram to the
   PlugFest preparation page above
   ... he needs to update the diagram with Intel devices, though

   McCool: yes
   ... we can see Mozilla devices as well
   ... there are scenarios below the table

   Kathy: that's great

   McCool: there is a dedicated section for Mozilla already
   ... what kind of orchestration would be possible?
   ... to show interoperability

   Kathy: great
   ... Samsung/SmartThings work well

   Kaz: please add information to the PlugFest preparation page
   above
   ... and also please try to join the PlugFest call which occurs
   after this call usually (no PlugFest call today, though)

   McCool: unfortunately, the moderator, Michael Lagally, is not
   available today, but probably in two weeks, we'll resume the
   discussion

Upcoming f2f after TPAC?

   Sebastian: question on the next meeting?
   ... should we plan for the upcoming f2f meetings
   ... in addition to the IETF Hatckathon option

   McCool: IETF Hackathon would be easier to handle
   ... Vancouver is technically in north America

   Kaz: we need to think about plan for upcoming f2f meetings as
   well

   McCool: think Singapore is also doable
   ... Sebastian (and all), if you have other ideas for possible
   options, please let us know
   ... possible f2f meeting before March?

   Sebastian: don't know but usually we hold f2f meetings every
   3-4 months

   McCool: would see candidates for our future meetings

TPAC f2f

   McCool: can glance possible plans for TPAC f2f

   [21]TPAC f2f wiki

     [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan

   McCool: any specific topics for joint discussion?
   ... also please put your availability/unavailability

   Kaz: e.g., I'll be attending the MEIG meeting on Monday

   McCool: we can use the topics as the basis of the agenda

   (note on dev meetup)

   Kaz: note that we (somebody) need to become a dev meetup
   sponsor if we want to provide demo during dev meetup on Monday
   ... it's a separate sponsorship from the general TPAC sponsor

   McCool: ok
   ... in any case, I myself will be there

   [22]Dev Meetup page

     [22] https://www.w3.org/2019/09/Meetup/

   McCool: we need to talk more about the upcoming future f2f
   planning as well
   ... aob for today?

   (none)

Next call?

   Kaz: we'll have the main call on Aug 8, and a PlugFest call
   right after that (probably a short meeting to check the
   progress quickly)

   McCool: a bit tricky but should be ok

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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