- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:13:07 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2019/07/31-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Sebastian!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT-IG/WG
31 Jul 2019
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#31_July_2019
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kathy_Giori, Tetsushi_Matsuda,
Toru_Kawaguchi, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster,
Tomoaki_Mizushima, Takahisa_Suzuki, Ryuichi_Matsukura
Regrets
Chair
McCool
Scribe
Sebastian, Kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]IG Charter updates
2. [5]Spec Review feedback
3. [6]TF reports
4. [7]WG Charter discussion
5. [8]PlugFest
6. [9]Upcoming f2f after TPAC?
7. [10]TPAC f2f
8. [11]Next call?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz_> scribenick: sebastian
IG Charter updates
McCool merged some inputs from A. Bird and Wendy
<kaz_> [14]Wendy's comments
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/835
<kaz_> [15]Alan's comments
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/838
<kaz_> [16]Sebastian's comment
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846
<inserted> scribenick: kaz_
Sebastian: would add eClass to the external org section
... Markus Reigl from Siemens also would like to join the WoT
call at some point, e.g., next week
McCool: why don't we let people review it for one week, and
discuss it next week?
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: let's review the IG Charter in general
Sebastian: ok
<inserted> scribenick: sebastian
Sebastian presented the PR
[17]https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846 about OPC UA text
updates + introduce eCl@ss as new organization
[17] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/846
Markus Reigl would be happy to introduce eCl@ss in this round.
we should shedule this after the vecation time
Spec Review feedback
McCool give some feedback about the PING meeting during IETF
meeting
PING sees three concerns with WoT: 1) use cases 2) need control
of the TDs 3) the ID term in TD
McCool sees less technical concerns more policy aspects
Oliver Pfaff from Siemens will support in the future about
security / privacy topics
TF reports
next topic TF reports
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Sebastian: TD
... talked about namespace issues
... discussion about missing explanation
... how the namespace structure should look like
... relation to the other documents, etc.
... Victor will take care of the issue
... the other issue was merging remaining PRs, etc.
... nothing much for the TD spec itself
... but discussed Binding document and ontology document
... Koster, anything?
Koster: missed last two calls due to other assignment
... don't have any active topics
... should work on vocabulary but it's a long-term topic
McCool: do you want to give some update on SDF and One Data
Model next week?
Koster: yes
McCool: (adds "SDF and One Data Model" to the "Future Topics"
section of the main call agenda)
... will not be available for a while
Sebastian: maybe need to cancel the upcoming TD calls in August
... will talk with Taki
McCool: Architecture?
<sebastian> architecture on July 25 was canceled
WG Charter discussion
[18]minutes
[18] https://www.w3.org/2019/07/25-wot-minutes.html
[19]Doodle poll
[19] https://doodle.com/poll/iuurpkccr9kfgv9u
Kaz: we had some initial discussion on Jul 25. the main topic
was WG topics based on Lagally's slides (which is based on
Matthias' slides)
... next meeting will be decided based on the doodle poll
McCool: need Lagally for further discussion
... also should move up priority topics
<sebastian> Oracle has introduced new topics that require a
group consensus.
PlugFest
McCool: would like to think about online PlugFest/TestFest
... good opportunity for collaborating with others
... also would suggest we consider to join IETF Hackathons
... upcoming IETF106 in Singapore, Nov. 16-17
... note it's quite soon after TPAC
... if Mozilla can't make TPAC in Fukuoka, any possibility for
IETF106 Hackathon in Singapore in Nov?
Kathy: some chance
... including Singapore
... ending November 20
McCool: Hackathon will be the beginning of the IETF week (=Nov.
16-17)
... maybe you can check if it would work
... and the next one is IETF107 in Vancouver, March 21-22, 2020
... possibly collocated with our f2f
... in Vancouver somewhere
Kathy: Mozilla has an office in Vancouver
Kaz: also wondering about online PlugFest prior to TPAC 2019 in
Fukuoka
Kathy: sounds possible
McCool: we set up VPN for last online PlugFest
... we can find an expert for the setting
... we need to set up the environment quickly for TPAC
... do you know somebody who is good at VPN?
Kathy: not really, but can try OAuth, etc.
McCool: can understand you have a portal
... we can try connection on some allocated day
... some orchestration of WoT and Mozilla
Kathy: can act as access point for the future PlugFest
McCool: actual date for the online PlugFest
... who/what to show up
... what would be the plan?
Kaz: good question
... we need to identify concrete schedule
McCool: based on the scenario discussion (on the PlugFest
preparation page)
Kaz: we should start discussion on the concrete schedule
including the online PlugFest shortly, e.g., next week
[20]PlugFest preparation page
[20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2019-tpac-fukuoka/README.md
McCool: there is a table including devices on the PlugFest
preparation page above
... added Intel device as well
... Zigbee devices
... you can add Mozilla's devices
Kathy: ok
Kaz: note that Toumura-san has just added a diagram to the
PlugFest preparation page above
... he needs to update the diagram with Intel devices, though
McCool: yes
... we can see Mozilla devices as well
... there are scenarios below the table
Kathy: that's great
McCool: there is a dedicated section for Mozilla already
... what kind of orchestration would be possible?
... to show interoperability
Kathy: great
... Samsung/SmartThings work well
Kaz: please add information to the PlugFest preparation page
above
... and also please try to join the PlugFest call which occurs
after this call usually (no PlugFest call today, though)
McCool: unfortunately, the moderator, Michael Lagally, is not
available today, but probably in two weeks, we'll resume the
discussion
Upcoming f2f after TPAC?
Sebastian: question on the next meeting?
... should we plan for the upcoming f2f meetings
... in addition to the IETF Hatckathon option
McCool: IETF Hackathon would be easier to handle
... Vancouver is technically in north America
Kaz: we need to think about plan for upcoming f2f meetings as
well
McCool: think Singapore is also doable
... Sebastian (and all), if you have other ideas for possible
options, please let us know
... possible f2f meeting before March?
Sebastian: don't know but usually we hold f2f meetings every
3-4 months
McCool: would see candidates for our future meetings
TPAC f2f
McCool: can glance possible plans for TPAC f2f
[21]TPAC f2f wiki
[21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-20_September_2019,_Fukuoka,_Japan
McCool: any specific topics for joint discussion?
... also please put your availability/unavailability
Kaz: e.g., I'll be attending the MEIG meeting on Monday
McCool: we can use the topics as the basis of the agenda
(note on dev meetup)
Kaz: note that we (somebody) need to become a dev meetup
sponsor if we want to provide demo during dev meetup on Monday
... it's a separate sponsorship from the general TPAC sponsor
McCool: ok
... in any case, I myself will be there
[22]Dev Meetup page
[22] https://www.w3.org/2019/09/Meetup/
McCool: we need to talk more about the upcoming future f2f
planning as well
... aob for today?
(none)
Next call?
Kaz: we'll have the main call on Aug 8, and a PlugFest call
right after that (probably a short meeting to check the
progress quickly)
McCool: a bit tricky but should be ok
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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