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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 10 April 2019

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 02:50:41 +0900
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also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Matthias and Lagally!

Kazuyuki

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                               WoT-IG/WG

10 Apr 2019

Attendees

   Present
          Michael_Lagally, Zoltan_Kis, Michael_Mccool,
          Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster,
          Matthias_Kovatsch, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Toru_Kawaguchi

   Regrets
          Kaz

   Chair
          Matthias, McCool

   Scribe
          mkovatsc_, mlagally

Contents

     * [2]Topics
         1. [3]Quick updates from AC meeting
         2. [4]Workshop
         3. [5]Demos
         4. [6]TAG review process
         5. [7]TF updates
               o [8]TD
               o [9]Architecture
               o [10]Binding Templates
               o [11]Scripting API
               o [12]Security
         6. [13]Demo Scenarios
     * [14]Summary of Action Items
     * [15]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   scribenick: mlagally

Quick updates from AC meeting

   McCool gave a 10 min preso, this has been uploaded to WoT repo
   ... we discussed scheduling and talked to TAG chairman as well
   ... testing call will be cancelled today (Apr. 10)

Workshop

   Sebastian: PC call next Monday 3pm CEST
   ... please register for open day
   ... limited seating, so please be quick

   <mkovatsc_> scribenick: mkovatsc_

Demos

   McCool: would like to talk about demos

   <sebastian> share your demos for the open day wot workshop here
   [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2
   019-Munich/README.md

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2019-Munich/README.md

   Lagally: There are demos at the W3C WoT Workshop
   ... we should start with what we had at the PlugFests
   ... there is a README to get started
   ... will talk about this next week

   [17]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2
   019-Munich/README.md

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2019-Munich/README.md

   scribenick: mlagally

TAG review process

   McCool: TAG phone conference is scheduled for April 17th - we
   have to wait for that before we can do CR transition
   ... I talked to Accessibility etc. contacts, we can still
   manage transition to REC if we don't do any more changes
   ... we should be aiming to transition asap after the TAG phone
   conference

TF updates

* TD

   Sebastian: We had discussion on simplified vs. full version of
   TD. Will hold back with this naming, since this causes
   confusion
   ... we decided to omit this naming - there is a new section
   explaining the serialisation. There will be a section on
   interpreting the HTTP binding, however we won't describe other
   protocols.
   ... There may be some side-documents in the future for other
   protocols.
   ... Plan for Friday: Incorporating feedback from the CoRAL
   group, wrt. naming, vocabulary changes

   McCool: Process discussion from AC - there seems to be a need
   for incremental updates to standards. There is no official
   process yet, however we are a good candidate.

   Koster: We could create a document for each process

   McCool: we could submit an update, and if nobody complains
   within 180 days, it could be in place
   ... we should consider this new process going forward

   Sebastian: Timeline: finish protocol handling today, working
   with Victor and Ege - major goal is solving any open issues
   until end of this week

   McCool: we should aim for CR transition at the end of next week

   Sebastian: @context is now a mandatory term, namespace has been
   updated, we relied on Manu's proposal with a year and version
   tag

   McCool: all our TDs will fail
   ... however adding the @context to TDs is not a big change
   ... it would be good if each implementation would add it,
   perhaps do it after Friday

   <mkovatsc_> scribenick: mkovatsc_

* Architecture

   Lagally: we merged PRs
   ... have an open PR on terminology
   ... we are still working on the document
   ... discussion on use cases whether client/server roles should
   be defined here
   ... update coming in to align with terminology updates
   ... some figure updates

   McCool: I will be travelling, so I cannot attend
   ... appendix with protocol exchanges should move over to
   Binding Templates document, will open issue

   Lagally: document should be ready for CR transition until end
   of next week

   McCool: need feeback from TAG and then transition to CR on
   Friday, 19th
   ... will probably need a resolution by e-mail or have
   resolution on Thursday, 18th

   Lagally: we will do resolution for the Architecture call on
   Thursday, 18th

* Binding Templates

   Koster: moved table for HTTP to TD document
   ... binding document will not be normative, but provide
   implementation guidance
   ... I will need 1-2 weeks to get the document changes done
   ... There are no specifics meetings any more
   ... A meeting for review can be set up separately

   McCool: should clean up after the CR transitions

   Koster: makes sense to prioritize CR transitions and then work
   on the other documents
   ... help for the document is welcome

* Scripting API

   Zoltan: send out a status mail
   ... have a PR with major rework of the API
   ... discussion on URI variables, more in the email, or comment
   in Issue or directly on the PR
   ... no TAG review needed for group note
   ... but recommended for APIs

   (Sebastian leaves)

   McCool: I am sure we want to publish API document and there is
   something in the charter
   ... a presentation on the new design would be helpful
   ... zoltan, will you submit something to the workshop?

   Zoltan: yes, will submit, but no confirmation if I can attend

   McCool: will go over the design in the main call

   <McCool> no problem

   <McCool> just said that in two weeks, let's have a pres

   <McCool> and in the meantime people should post comments

* Security

   <McCool> next topics

   <zkis> we need a more aggressive timeline, since we target
   publishing a new WD in May

   McCool: no major changes
   ... will look at penetration tests soon

   <McCool> security: will discuss penetration testing in our next
   call

   <McCool> and schedule that in the next month

   <McCool> next: mlagally, feel free to talk about demo scenarios

Demo Scenarios

   Lagally: high-level summary in the README
   ... mostly placeholders at the moment

   [18]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2
   019-Munich/

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/workshop/ws2/demos-2019-Munich/

   Lagally: please put all your input into this file
   ... main point: we need to show a demo that goes across
   multiple vendors to demonstrate successfully
   ... we could have one demo per use case
   ... we will discuss next week in the call
   ... also collect tools
   ... need to set up a Hangout again to show remote Things
   ... add links to the Documentation section
   ... also specify your local requirements for your demo (power
   outlets, wired network, etc.)

   A.O.B.?

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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