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Re: [TF-LD] notes - 8 June 2018

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:43:18 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9W0UVjw2dwsihqB2AKgrcAwDSDk+9P69z66jd_yh-9+mw@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Le Phuoc, Danh" <danh.lephuoc@tu-berlin.de>
Cc: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>
Hi Danh,

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

Let's discuss these points (as well) during today's LD call :)



On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Le Phuoc, Danh
<danh.lephuoc@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Hi Kaz and all,
> Sorry for not attending the meeting as I thought the meeting was cancelled and I also was travelling.  I would like to share my plan for some of the points you highlighted in bellow:
> 1. Integrated JSON-LD Frame into Thing directory: Victor and I discussed about this in recent F2F meetings, we're finishing the first implementation for this feature, we will create a PR for this this week so that Victor can review before the plugfest.
> 2. For SHACL tooling  for TD, we're looking into providing a SHACL+GraphQL API/library for Thing Directory, it will not be ready for the plugfest, but I'll report the progress and implementation plans on the  Open Day.
> Best regards,
> Danh
> ´╗┐On 11/06/2018, 08:11, "Kazuyuki Ashimura" <ashimura@w3.org> wrote:
>     Hi all,
>     Darko was not available and there were just Koster, McCool, Taki and
>     myself during the LD call on June 8, so we didn't have an official
>     call but had some chat as follows.
>     Thanks a lot for taking these notes, Taki!
>     Kazuyuki
>     --- from here ---
>     Present: Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Kaz_Ashimura
>     Chair: Koster
>     Scribe: Taki
>     Koster: Originally on the agenda was:
>       How to use external ontology such as semantic annotation using iotschema.org,
>       and discussion on recommended patterns for using FoI (Feature of Interest).
>     Koster: How JSON-LD Frame works.
>       Has someone taken a look at it how it works exactly?
>       If not, we need to have some to take a look at it closely.
>     McCool: JSON-LD Playground.
>       TD Validation is using JSON schema for syntactic checking.
>       I already rewrote JSON schema halfway based on the latest TD draft spec.
>       I encountered an issue.
>       When importing external security schemes, validation needs to take
>     that into account.
>       Such as enumerated values. new scheme name needs to be allowed in
>     enumeration, for example.
>     Koster: WISHI telecon.
>       WoT IG/WG exercises PlugFest according to our own plan.
>       WISHI PlugFest uses WoT PlugFest as the starting point, and build
>     research on top of it.
>       With regards to on-line PlugFest, WISHI has assigned no action
>     items. WISHI is volunteer-based activity.
>       Next WISHI Face-to-Face meeting will be 14th-15th of July in Montreal.
>     McCool: SHACL tooling.
>       TD validation is also using SHACL for certain purposes.
>       Not very clear about available toolset for processing/using SHACL.
>       Is the toolset as powerful as those of JSON Schema?
>       Some WoT members may be more knowledgeable on this, including Dave,
>     Darko and Victor.
>     Koster: schema.org, including iotschema.org is discussing to use shape
>     constraints (SHACL).
>       Tool development is part of the discussion.
>     McCool: A practical approach is SHACL to JSON Schema generation. This
>     is practical and useful.
>       It should merge in all contexts, and generate JSON Schema.
>     Koster: I also want to use OCF, ZigBee as well as iotschema.org definitions.
>       JSON schema is mainly for validation payload.
>       We can use RDF to describe OCF and generate JSON schema, for example.
>       This kind of higher-level tooling is useful and important.
>     McCool: There is a Korea F2F agenda item for discussing testing tools.
>     Koster: We should also allocate time for discussing shapes validation.
>     McCool: One hour testing tool discussion, and 15 minutes shapes
>     validation discussion as part of it.
>     Koster: That is good. Let's make sure to have it on agenda. Hopefully,
>     Dahn can also join the meeting.
>     McCool: Online PlugFest should also be an agenda point.
>       When a light is on, how can we know about it?
>       Device simulation is useful in this case.
>     Koster: The idea of Digital Twin is also based on proxy and model.
>     McCool: Semantic annotation can help simulation.
>     Koster: Generic testing API for all TDs will also be useful.
>     McCool: For example, when node.wot is run in testing mode, one way is
>     to make it so that
>       it automatically can turn on testing APIs such as for observability,
>     controllability
>       (such as triggering events, etc.).
>     --- to here ---

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