- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:52:45 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/05/30-wot-test-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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WoT Test
30 May 2018
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett
Regrets
Kawaguchi
Chair
McCool, Ege
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]prev minutes
2. [4]F-Interop demo
3. [5]Doodle poll results
4. [6]plugfest/f2f planning
5. [7]Assertion extraction tool
6. [8]Tools
* [9]Summary of Action Items
* [10]Summary of Resolutions
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<scribe> scribenick: kaz
prev minutes
[11]prev minutes
[11] https://www.w3.org/2018/05/23-wot-test-minutes.html
McCool: one thing
... one action here
... demonstration of F-Interop
... a week after
... let's create an action for that
... the other action was Kaz to Doodle
... other than those 2 actions, would accept the minutes
(no objections)
McCool: and would like to record actions here (=on the Test
wiki)
F-Interop demo
Ege: talked to Federico
... he can do a demo
... but Soumya is also working on F-Interop
... who to ask?
McCool: would understand what they're working on
... if it takes longer (e.g., 2 weeks), maybe we could have
some concrete proposal from the F-Interop side first
... Matthias mentioned we didn't want strong dependency
Dave: spoke with Federico too
... maybe we could provide a demo with CoAP
... interoperable testing
... in terms of license
... basically open source and open license
McCool: we would like some concrete document as well
... I like the technical focus myself
... would see the W3C license requirements as well
Dave: we have tests
... some kind of machine interpretive part
McCool: there are a bunch of nervous things...
... vocabulary must satisfy this semantic tag, etc.
... JSON Schema, vocabulary definition, WebIDL, etc.
... would cover most of the spec
... WebIDL doesn't cover the behavior
... gives you syntax keywords/grammar, though
... 2 weeks from now
... you and Federico can come back
Kaz: as Michael mentioned, you could provide some more
information about your goal, purpose, etc.
... we should remember that testing consists several
levels/categories
... and testing for spec generation should be our priority
McCool: you can provide updated presentation
Dave: can work with Federico and Ege
Doodle poll results
[12]doodle poll
[12] https://doodle.com/poll/frv99b2ynvmkmb48
Kaz: siemens guys have conflict on Tuesday?
McCool: Friday 9pm/10pm might be another candidate
... or Monday 11pm
... let's go with that (as the 1st candidate)
Kaz: let's mention that during the main call after this call
McCool: ok
... (tentatively edits the Testing wiki with this proposal)
... need to allocate a new series of WebEx as well
Kaz: ok
plugfest/f2f planning
McCool: we'll have a plugfest call in 2 hours
... anything to do testing during plugfest?
... TD validation ready, etc.
Ege: planning to do that
... trying to make it
... want to have test bench
McCool: we should do that written up
... created a document on security goals for plugfest
... would have similar document for testing goals for plugfest
... we should run security check with all the implementation,
for example
... let's discuss this during the PF meeting
... regarding f2f...
[13]f2f wiki
[13] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea
McCool: created a few things on the wiki
[14]proposed sessions
[14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea#Plenary_and_Breakouts
Ege: won't be able to physically join it
... will join using webex
McCool: that's fine
... just realized
... TD deliverable
... Scripting API
... require test suite
... TD validation is possible by online checker
... those the priority
... other things
... specification validation
... second priority
... TD validation
... next test suite for scripting api
... then online testing/demonstration systems
... and continuous integration
... (adds approximate times for each topic)
... TD validation tools includes validating TD and Things based
on that TD
... online testing/demonstration systems including continuous
integration
... (shows PR on GH)
Assertion extraction tool
<McCool>
[15]https://rawgit.com/mmccool/wot-thing-description/assertions
/testing/assertions.html
[15] https://rawgit.com/mmccool/wot-thing-description/assertions/testing/assertions.html
<McCool>
[16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/138
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/138
doc and pr above
McCool: joined the TD call last Friday
... some parallel work
... there was a conflict within the PR
... caused by the parallel edit...
... expecting that Sebastian will fix the conflict
... will join the TD call on Friday again
... try to resolve the conflict (or use the updated version for
the check)
... nice to have a tool to track the HTML structure...
Tools
McCool: Oracle not available today
... what about playground, Ege?
Ege: it's online
McCool: can you make a slide?
Ege: there is a plugfest service link...
<ege> [17]http://plugfest.thingweb.io/
[17] http://plugfest.thingweb.io/
Ege: has to be updated for the next plugfest
<ege> [18]http://plugfest.thingweb.io/playground/
[18] http://plugfest.thingweb.io/playground/
playground tool above
McCool: ok
... is there any documentation?
Ege: can provide some more basic APIs as well
McCool: is there some service as well?
... would be handy for plugfest/testing integration
... (shows the source code of the JavaScript)
Ege: actual validation is done by the JS
... 2 possible things
... online api and npm module
McCool: right
... you can use browser to use it
... this is all packaged
... generally test suite need this capability
... can certainly help you restructure this code
Ege: need to check with Siemens guys
McCool: this chunk of code
... pure JS
... very handy to package this up
Kaz: that's true
McCool: one code base for browser purposes and node purposes
... talk about Oracles work next time
Ege: next call will be next Monday, June 4?
McCool: right
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[ONGOING] ACTION: Dave/Ege/Federico to work on demonstration of
F-Interop
[DONE] ACTION: Kaz to create a Doodle poll to decide a new slot
for the Testing call
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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