- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 04:06:07 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/01/31-wot-pf-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WoT PlugFest
31 Jan 2018
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool,
Zoltan_Kis, Kunihiko_Toumura, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
Michael_Lagally, Michael_Koster, Toru_Kawaguchi
Regrets
Chair
koster, matsukura
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Interface description between proxy and app/device
servients
2. [4]Koster's updated slides
3. [5]McCool's security template
4. [6]How to manage documents
* [7]Summary of Action Items
* [8]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
<McCool>
[9]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/
docs/Web%20of%20Things%20Security%20and%20Privacy%20Template.pp
tx
[9] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/docs/Web
of Things Security and Privacy Template.pptx
<McCool> security template--- for the agenda
Interface description between proxy and app/device servients
kaz: while waiting for Koster, I have something
... we should clarify who will implement which servients for
Prague
... for that purpose, we might want to reuse Fujitsu's proxy
servient for Prague
... and people should clarify the interface between Futjit's
proxy and each application/device servient
matsukura: sounds good
kaz: thought you wanted to do that for Burlingame
... but maybe we could try that for Prague
<mjkoster> sorry, having trouble connecting with webex
kaz: Matsukura-san, maybe you could extend your document
(Burlingame one and/or Prague one) for interface descriptions
<ryuichi>
[10]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague
/preparation.md
[10] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/preparation.md
kaz: koster, you generated updated slides?
koster: yes, to clarify our goals
... we have many goals
... what we want is having a common ground
... e.g., for discovery
(Koster joins)
Koster's updated slides
<mjkoster>
[11]https://github.com/mjkoster/wot-protocol-binding/blob/maste
r/plugfest-prague.pdf
[11] https://github.com/mjkoster/wot-protocol-binding/blob/master/plugfest-prague.pdf
koster: (goes through his updated slides)
... [Thing Directory]
... registration lifecycle management
... what TDs will you register as a server
... what client discovery methods will you use?
... [Semantic Annotation]
... some portion here
... what thing types and capabilities will be exposed by your
servers
... what interactions and data types will be exposed for each
capability
... applications/clients/servers
... put it into the questionnaire
... we should bring some kind of client
... what application does your client host
... [Protocol Binding]
... we have CoAP, HTTP, ...
... how tho deal with event handling
... [Proxy]
... what protocols does your proxy consume/expose
... security protocols
... how does your proxy interact with Thing Directories
... [Security]
... strawman questions
... transport security methods, e.g., DTLS
... access control features, HTTP basic auth, Kerberos, ACLs?
... how to obtain/configure it?
... [Accessibility]
... accessibility scenario
... alternate modes of interaction
... next level of issues?
... also same slide deck
... details about things
... questions?
... would like your input offline
<mkovatsc> [12]https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-directory
[12] https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-directory
koster: we need whole architecture works together
matthias: Thing Directory online above
<mkovatsc>
[13]https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-thingweb
[13] https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-thingweb
matthias: not yet Eclipse foundation repository
... you can simply use the thingweb repo for Prague
koster: tx
... we're having a wishi workshop
... 1 week before our f2f
... I'm working on that
... would like to start with discovery
... want to avoid duplicate
... hopefully we can do some complementary work
kaz: so you want to expand these questions to guidlines?
koster: yes
kaz: how to proceed?
... actual questionnaire?
... wiki or MD?
koster: can create an MD or wiki
... for collaborative work
... can make some template with example
kaz: whichever is fine, wiki or MD
... W3C wiki or GitHub wiki :)
koster: GitHub wiki would be better
... we can use pull requests
kaz: ok
koster: let's go for that way
<scribe> ACTION: koster to organize the first shot of
questionnaire template
kaz: any other questions?
(none)
McCool's security template
[14]security template
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/docs/Web
of Things Security and Privacy Template.pptx
mccool: similar to what koster explained
... eventually we may merge this with his template
... what is in and out our scope
... [Goals]
... hard to define security recommendation
... need to describe concrete scenario
... [Agents and Roles]
... who is using this
... who owns?
... who maintains?
... [Topology]
... what kind of places?
... break down into major sections
... [Confidentiality and Privacy]
... need more use cases
... information management
... [Integrity]
... [Authentication]
... how to identify agents
... [Authorization]
... who has what kind of rights?
... identity of things
... during the operational lifecycle
... authorization may change
... you may simply make it static
... [Validation]
... how would you validate the security
... 2 angles
... what you build for plugfest
... and what would you do for the scenario
... useful to document what would you do
... questions?
... this is available on GitHub
<McCool>
[15]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague
/docs/Web%20of%20Things%20Security%20and%20Privacy%20Template.p
ptx
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/docs/Web
of Things Security and Privacy Template.pptx
mccool: we need feedback
... discussion continues at the next security call on Monday
... would like to have an implementation to cover those points
... everybody has to do that
kaz: do you want to put this on MD to gather opinions?
mccool: need feedback
... markdown is fine
... need to think about where the check list should go
koster: powerpoint should be also acceptable
<mkovatsc>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_201
8,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation
[16] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation
koster: as additional resources, e.g., diagrams
... we can put all the information into one place
mccool: can convert this to MD and put it under the wot repo
... under the wot/plugrest/2018-prague
koster: maybe under a subdirectory of "checklist"?
mccool: ok
... maybe we can start with README.md
matthias: directory for multiple checklist?
mccool: Koster is doing a general checklist
... and mine is for security specifically
matthias: ok
... if people has additional points, they may add them
koster: if people just add lines, there should not be conflicts
... I'll create some initial checklist
kaz: personally prefer having both on one page with 2 sections
mccool: we can merge them later
kaz: ok
mccool: after plugfest we should merge them
kaz: ok
... any other questions?
matthias: what do we have to do now?
... there are so many documents
How to manage documents
matthias: what documents to read?
... need an overview
<mkovatsc>
[17]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_201
8,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation
[17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation
kaz: that is the starting point on the f2f wiki
mccool: maybe we can add a link to the checklist to the f2f
wiki?
matthias: that's fine
mccool: (adds a link to the f2f wiki)
... and next we need to add actual scenarios to the prep
document
... we can create subdirectories for concrete scenarios
koster: scenarios and system architecture
... also interoperability across different scenarios
mccool: btw, I see editorial issues with this prep document,
and would like to go through it
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: koster to organize the first shot of
questionnaire template
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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