- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 03:21:01 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-wot-pf-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Daniel!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
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- DRAFT -
WoT PlugFest
14 Feb 2018
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Benjamin_Klotz, Kunihiko_Toumura,
Michael_Koster, Toru_Kawaguchi, Soumya_Kanti_Datta,
Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Matthias_Kovatsch
Regrets
Chair
Koster
Scribe
dape
Contents
* [2]Topics
* [3]Summary of Action Items
* [4]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
<scribe> scribe: dape
Koster: on Agenda is process check-list
... talk about servient to servient (with proxy)
... would like to start with review where we are
... what are we developing to help people be prepared
... we have questionnaires
... will turn into W3C forms
... want to collect information what is being implemented
... also, we have regular wiki collecting what people bring
with them
... entry form from previous PlugFests could be re-used
... maybe add additional columns (if necessary)
Daniel: entry form == wiki page
[5]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_20
17,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation
[5] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_2017,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation
[6]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018
,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#PlugFest_.2824-25_Mar_2018.29
[6] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#PlugFest_.2824-25_Mar_2018.29
<kaz>
[7]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018
,_Prague,_Czech_Republic?
[7] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic
Daniel: current PlugFest wiki misses entry form
Koster: Yes, need to add this
... any updates to this kind of wiki needed?
Daniel: Might want to think about splitting PlugFest
information
Koster: create new page, yes
... move the table
<kaz> [8]participation table for Burlingame
[8] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_2017,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation
<kaz> [9]Prague f2f wiki doesn't have that table
[9] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation
Matthias: fear duplicate information in several places
<kaz> [10]preparation page for Prague
[10] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/preparation.md
Koster: propose one location...
... moving to preparation page?
<kaz> +1
Matthias: yes
Koster: PRs for updates should work nicely
Matthias: Powerpoint is also fine.. easy to edit
... need to share information during PlugFest also
Koster: single Powerpoint for all participants ?
... living document during PlugFest
... Markdown seems easier .... line by line changes
Matthias: Need to take care to avoid duplication of information
Koster: might need to have slide-deck and Markdown?
... we have wiki, markdown, and ppt
... don't need table of participants on wiki
... will collect entries on markup via PR
... powerpoint for summary
Toru: have preparation.md already
Koster: yes, copy from previous PlugFest
Toru: could make PRs to that MD file
Kaz: Could use markdown table generator
<kaz> [11]tables generator
[11] http://www.tablesgenerator.com/markdown_tables
Koster: Ok, looks good
... get started... please comment if there are suggestions
... next is what we did in Burlingame.... state machines,
diagrams
... implementation guidance and scenarios
... for scenarios we look at discovery, proxy etc
... might we want to start writing test-cases?
... proxy has same system features as a servient
... write to down what we want to test
Kaz: agree
... btw, during the Burlingame PlugFest, there are various
applications and devices generated by multiple participants as
shown in the following diagram
[12]Application, Remote Proxy, Local Proxy and Device in
Burlingame
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2017-burlingame/images/PlugfestResult_Nov5.png
Various applications and devices connected via proxies in
Burlingame PlugFest
Kaz: And most of those applications and devices were connected
with Fujitsu's Remote/Local Proxies
... So I've started to think we could use Fujitsu's
Remote/Local Proxies as the basic framework and concentrate on
the interfaces, (1) the interface between Application Servients
and Remote Proxy (green lines on the left side in the below
diagram) and (2) another interface between Local Proxy and
Device Servients (brown lines on the right side in the below
diagram)
[13]Application, Remote Proxy, Local Proxy and Device
[13] https://www.w3.org/app-proxy-dev.png
Fujitsu's remote proxy and local proxy as a possible framework
for various applications and devices
Koster: yes, enables transparent proxying
... need to provide implementation guidance
... proxy consumes device and expose them
... a) in the same fashion
... b) in a different way (other protocol)
... do we need to think about common TDs?
... is there a thing directory ?
... there are a lot of questions
... Fujitsu has a framework
Kaz: Matsukura-san said can provide them
Toru: what exactly?
Kaz: Local proxy and remote proxy as a packaged framework for
PlugFest
Koster: shall we try to organize review
... what it does
... what can be used
Kaz: yes
... will ask Matsukura-san
Koster: <describes proxy lifecycle>
... special cases
... 3 directories (which could be connected)
... we start introducing lots of system variables
... what should be our next steps
... suggest to schedule review of Fujitsus framework
... also suggest different guidance documents for the different
proxies cases
Kaz: will talk to Matsukura-san again... about concrete
interface description
Koster: Maybe there are some simple tests we can run
... to ensure basic stuff works
Kaz: yes, this is important
... for CR we need test cases (besides spec itself)
Toru: we should also review what we did in Burlingame
... what could be the improvements
Kaz: Exactly
Koster: Let's put this on the agenda for next week
... feedback round during call
... will implement entry form
... get questionnaire made
<kaz> [adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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