- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 03:21:01 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2018/02/14-wot-pf-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Daniel! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT PlugFest 14 Feb 2018 Attendees Present Kaz_Ashimura, Benjamin_Klotz, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Toru_Kawaguchi, Soumya_Kanti_Datta, Daniel_Peintner, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Matthias_Kovatsch Regrets Chair Koster Scribe dape Contents * [2]Topics * [3]Summary of Action Items * [4]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <scribe> scribe: dape Koster: on Agenda is process check-list ... talk about servient to servient (with proxy) ... would like to start with review where we are ... what are we developing to help people be prepared ... we have questionnaires ... will turn into W3C forms ... want to collect information what is being implemented ... also, we have regular wiki collecting what people bring with them ... entry form from previous PlugFests could be re-used ... maybe add additional columns (if necessary) Daniel: entry form == wiki page [5]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_20 17,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation [5] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_2017,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation [6]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018 ,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#PlugFest_.2824-25_Mar_2018.29 [6] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#PlugFest_.2824-25_Mar_2018.29 <kaz> [7]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018 ,_Prague,_Czech_Republic? [7] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic Daniel: current PlugFest wiki misses entry form Koster: Yes, need to add this ... any updates to this kind of wiki needed? Daniel: Might want to think about splitting PlugFest information Koster: create new page, yes ... move the table <kaz> [8]participation table for Burlingame [8] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_4-10_November_2017,_Burlingame,_CA,_USA#Participation <kaz> [9]Prague f2f wiki doesn't have that table [9] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Preparation Matthias: fear duplicate information in several places <kaz> [10]preparation page for Prague [10] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-prague/preparation.md Koster: propose one location... ... moving to preparation page? <kaz> +1 Matthias: yes Koster: PRs for updates should work nicely Matthias: Powerpoint is also fine.. easy to edit ... need to share information during PlugFest also Koster: single Powerpoint for all participants ? ... living document during PlugFest ... Markdown seems easier .... line by line changes Matthias: Need to take care to avoid duplication of information Koster: might need to have slide-deck and Markdown? ... we have wiki, markdown, and ppt ... don't need table of participants on wiki ... will collect entries on markup via PR ... powerpoint for summary Toru: have preparation.md already Koster: yes, copy from previous PlugFest Toru: could make PRs to that MD file Kaz: Could use markdown table generator <kaz> [11]tables generator [11] http://www.tablesgenerator.com/markdown_tables Koster: Ok, looks good ... get started... please comment if there are suggestions ... next is what we did in Burlingame.... state machines, diagrams ... implementation guidance and scenarios ... for scenarios we look at discovery, proxy etc ... might we want to start writing test-cases? ... proxy has same system features as a servient ... write to down what we want to test Kaz: agree ... btw, during the Burlingame PlugFest, there are various applications and devices generated by multiple participants as shown in the following diagram [12]Application, Remote Proxy, Local Proxy and Device in Burlingame [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2017-burlingame/images/PlugfestResult_Nov5.png Various applications and devices connected via proxies in Burlingame PlugFest Kaz: And most of those applications and devices were connected with Fujitsu's Remote/Local Proxies ... So I've started to think we could use Fujitsu's Remote/Local Proxies as the basic framework and concentrate on the interfaces, (1) the interface between Application Servients and Remote Proxy (green lines on the left side in the below diagram) and (2) another interface between Local Proxy and Device Servients (brown lines on the right side in the below diagram) [13]Application, Remote Proxy, Local Proxy and Device [13] https://www.w3.org/app-proxy-dev.png Fujitsu's remote proxy and local proxy as a possible framework for various applications and devices Koster: yes, enables transparent proxying ... need to provide implementation guidance ... proxy consumes device and expose them ... a) in the same fashion ... b) in a different way (other protocol) ... do we need to think about common TDs? ... is there a thing directory ? ... there are a lot of questions ... Fujitsu has a framework Kaz: Matsukura-san said can provide them Toru: what exactly? Kaz: Local proxy and remote proxy as a packaged framework for PlugFest Koster: shall we try to organize review ... what it does ... what can be used Kaz: yes ... will ask Matsukura-san Koster: <describes proxy lifecycle> ... special cases ... 3 directories (which could be connected) ... we start introducing lots of system variables ... what should be our next steps ... suggest to schedule review of Fujitsus framework ... also suggest different guidance documents for the different proxies cases Kaz: will talk to Matsukura-san again... about concrete interface description Koster: Maybe there are some simple tests we can run ... to ensure basic stuff works Kaz: yes, this is important ... for CR we need test cases (besides spec itself) Toru: we should also review what we did in Burlingame ... what could be the improvements Kaz: Exactly Koster: Let's put this on the agenda for next week ... feedback round during call ... will implement entry form ... get questionnaire made <kaz> [adjourned] Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [14]scribe.perl version 1.152 ([15]CVS log) $Date: 2018/02/16 18:18:23 $ [14] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [15] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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