- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 00:23:37 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2017/07/21-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks for taking these minutes, Danh and Michael!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
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WoT IG - TF-LD
21 Jul 2017
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Linked_Data_and_Semantic_Processing_WebConf#Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2017/07/21-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Danh_Le_Phuoc, Darko_Anicic,
Michael_Koster
Regrets
Maria_Poveda, Achille_Zappa
Chair
Darko
Scribe
DanhLePhuoc, mjkoster, kaz
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]f2f recap and discussion on discovery
* [6]Summary of Action Items
* [7]Summary of Resolutions
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f2f recap and discussion on discovery
<kaz> scribenick: DanhLePhuoc
<kaz> [8]Dusseldorf f2f agenda
[8] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_9-13_July_2017,_Düsseldorf,_Germany#Agenda
<kaz> [9]Dusseldolf f2f minutes
[9] https://www.w3.org/2017/07/09-13-wot-minutes.html
we're currently have 3 tracks in LD task forces but only the
outcomes of two tracks were presented at the F2F
there are two streams of on vocabularies
the first one is on advocating in bridging ontologies
<DarkoAnicic> iot.schema.org :
[10]http://www.w3.org/2017/07/wot-f2f/slides/iotschema-wotf2f.p
df
[10] http://www.w3.org/2017/07/wot-f2f/slides/iotschema-wotf2f.pdf
and another one is leaning towards building by iot.schema.org
leading by michael koster
there're several separated efforts in annotating
semantics/ontologies to TD
but quite some of them have some difficulties in dealing with
ontologies and SW technologies and lack of devices during F2F
right now there's no use of TD repository because there's no
user interface to query/discover the repository to find usable
things
<inserted> scribenick: mjkoster
danh: provide a json interface for queries?
... basic vocabulary to discover things
darko: doing semantic queries was the difficulty
mkoster: maybe we need a template based discovery system where
you fill out a TD type template to express what you need
... looks like part of a recipe
darko: may be an approximate match using a recipe to compose a
possible solution from different ingredients
... servients register TDs to the repository and can be
discovered "bottom-up" but it doesnt work very well
... top-down may be a better solution
... using recipes
... servient to servient
danh: who will create the recipes?
darko: created by humans who want to create an application
danh: will we put this into the best practices?
darko: we should look at use cases for discovery and decide
what the better pattern is
... top-down or bottom up... the current pattern is not working
because it is difficult for users to form sparql queries
danh: turn recipes into sparql queries or make simple js
language
darko: what kind of discovery API is needed?
kaz: what is the target? local area? could use mDNS/bonjour on
a local network
... do we need some new 21st century DNS for web of things?
danh: we also need to think about discovery above the network
layer
kaz: is it the assumption that TD repository contains all of
the addresses?
danh: yes, everything will be in TD
kaz: there may be some use for network discovery, finding a
link
<kaz>
[11]https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/NOTE-mmi-mc-discovery-20170202/
[11] https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/NOTE-mmi-mc-discovery-20170202/
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
kaz: think there are several states, e.g., IDLE, AVAILABLE, and
we need to think about how to handle those states using
management thing api or LD recipe
... from my viewpoint, "TD Recipe" is kind of high-level
abstraction of Management Thing APIs.
<inserted> scribenick: DanhLePhuoc
DarkoAnicic: which task forces are managing the discovery
requirements?
TD TF is discussing a bit on that
[12]https://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.h
tml#td-discovery
[12] https://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#td-discovery
[13]https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-repository/
[13] https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-repository/
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
kaz: Darko, are you planning to collaborate with TD guys and
Management Thing guys?
darko: yes, would like to generate some proposal and bring that
to the main call, e.g., maybe the week after.
[ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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