- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:29:38 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/23-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Uday!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT IG/WG
23 Aug 2017
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/23-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Michael_McCool, Barry_Leiba, Kaz_Ashimura,
Federico_Sismondi, Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch,
Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Uday_Davuluru,
Niklas_Widell, Zoltan_Kis, DarkoAnicic, Kazuo_Kajimoto,
Soumya_Kanti_Datta, Daniel_Peintner, Taki_Kamiya,
Victor_Charpenay, Keiichi_Tokuyama, Masato_Ohura,
Yongjing_Zhang, Katsuyoshi_Naka
Regrets
Ryuichi_Matsukura
Chair
Matthias, McCool, Kajimoto, Yongjing
Scribe
uday
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]FPWDs
2. [5]clarifying capabilities
3. [6]TPAC plugfest
* [7]Summary of Action Items
* [8]Summary of Resolutions
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<mkvoatsc>
[9]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
[9] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
<kaz> scribenick: uday
Matthias: discusses agenda
<mkvoatsc>
[10]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Aug_2017
[10] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Aug_2017
FPWDs
<kaz> [11]editors call minutes (member-only)
[11] https://www.w3.org/2017/08/23-wot-editors-minutes.html
Kaz: briefs editors call, schedule&issues discussed,
... target doc- architecture and TD
Matthias: one issue about architecture doc structure discussed
<mkvoatsc>
[12]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/27
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/27
<mkvoatsc> Terminology:
[13]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/termino
logy.md
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/terminology.md
Kajimoto-san: terminology discussion of architecture doc
Matthias: will go ahead with agreed structure and then
Kajimoto-san to further work on it
... group can comment using pull requests
McCool: will close the MD version by Moday 28.08
Taki: will work on TD pull requests-data type change for august
30th review
McCool: to add few issues in TD repo
Matthias: briefs scripting doc work
Koster: to work on PB basic doc by 30.08
Matthias: release candidates by 30.08 followed by group review,
final consensus on 06.09 and then final publication
clarifying capabilities
Koster: iotschema.org capabilities
... capabilities are actions, events and properties of a single
function of a thing
e.g: on/off switch
capabilities can be composed together to define the whole thing
capability can be a separate schema/definition
can be implemented as individual instances
can themselves be semantic descriptors?
<McCool> question - can a proposed definition of "Capability"
be given that can be included in the terminology listing
(tentatively... we may not want to include it in the FPWD)
Koster:
McCool: can be sub-things, or one array of intereactions
... can capability also be a link?
Koster: too restrictive to have all semantic definitions at top
level
... could put links on capabilities
McCool: maybe as optional
Matthias: see two aspects- 1) capabilities can group multiple
interactions together, 2) how do we link interactions to
capabilities,where are the names of ineractions
Koster: refers to schema.org example
Matthias: does a capability prescribe what interaction to
access
Koster: we don't want to limit any of that, what should be
required? something minimum for interoperability
<inserted> scribenick: uday_
Matthias: iot.schema.org might trail WoT TD
McCool: iot.schema.org is going one level up, could have a
capability with zigbee style but have a concrete definition at
some level
Koster: tradeoff of interoperability Vs not being able to
implement too specific things
<kaz> Kaz: we just have 8 more minutes
<kaz> ... so should record the possible need for 2 layers of
abstraction
<kaz> ... and go ahead for other agenda topics
<kaz> ... (esp. TPAC logistics)
Victor: iot.schema.org not only defines capabilities but also
interactions
... can use interaction patterns individually with their own
TDs
still a need for unified vocabulary
<kaz> [ Kaz would like to note we have to let all know about
the TPAC update. ]
Zoltan: capabilities are informative, need some capability
negotiation
Matthias: feel this could be counter productive to TD idea
Darko: example with TD and TD+capability should help to discuss
<inserted> matthias: would be happy if there are concrete
examples
TPAC plugfest
Matthias: Fujitsu offered plugfest in sunnyvale
<kaz> McCool: Kaz will put the coordinate on the wiki
<kaz> Taki: fine
<kaz> Kaz: will put the info on the wiki then
... please note that we need to clean up the room and leave the
room by 6pm on Sunday
<kaz> [ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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