- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 23:05:52 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>
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available at: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/07-wot-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks a lot for taking notes, Yongjing! Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT IG 07 Sep 2016 [2]Agenda [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/09/07-wot-irc Attendees Present Kaz, Johannes, Michael_Koster, Darko, Masato, Uday, Victor, Yongjing, Aparna, Takuki, Zhang, Daniel_Peintner, Yingying, Yingying_Chen, Katsuyoshi, Michael_McCool Regrets Matthias Chair Darko Scribe Yongjing, Kaz Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Hydra and Thing Description 2. [6]Submission of WG Charter draft to W3M 3. [7]Co-chair discussion 4. [8]Joint Call with oneM2M 5. [9]TPAC Preparation 6. [10]Demo setup 7. [11]Roll-up posters 8. [12]Table status reports 9. [13]Presentation of Joint White Paper * [14]Summary of Action Items * [15]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <kaz> scribenick: kaz Darko: Matthias is not available today and asked me to chair the call today Hydra and Thing Description Darko: is Bergi on the call? (Bergi is not on the call) <victor> [16]https://github.com/bergos/wot-examples/ [16] https://github.com/bergos/wot-examples/ <inserted> scribenick: kaz victor: Hydra examples above ... also goes through the Current Practices document -> [17]http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.ht ml#td-examples Current Practices document [17] http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#td-examples victor: Bergi defines events <Yongjing> who's speaking now? i see Darko? victor: GET, PUT, DELETE operations <Yongjing> Why the WebEx shows Darko_Anicic? victor: temperature sensor <Yongjing> see, that's my problem... victor: Hydra middleware recognizes any Hydra-based APIs darko: not clear ... how to interact with events? victor: he defines 3 other examples <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing darko: take temperature as example to explain? <inserted> scribenick: kaz victor: (goes through the Hydra:supportedProperty examples) ... classes and Hydra properties <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing Daniel: missing aspects of protocols victor: Hydra can map to abstract operations, e.g. GET, PUT <inserted> scribenick: kaz victor: mapping on protocols is quite obvious <Yongjing> Daniel: need certain middleware? michael: Hydra exposes underlying REST-based mechanism ... Thing Description is a template victor: serializable as RDF michael: RDF is just one possible notation <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing victor: to get the temperature in Hydra, need to address resource, with serialized media type <inserted> scribenick: kaz victor: the Hydra client doesn't have to understand the media type michael: we could have Hydra Thing Description like our Thing Description ... I should join the discussion victor: lacking modeling type system ... link or actual resource <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing victor: resource should only have properties as literal or links to the resources Michael: will take closer look into Hydra and have further discussion <inserted> scribenick: kaz darko: if we have one description for temperature in one file ... and another file ... this would be definitely a hyperlink approach victor: you can define classes ... and all the temperature sensors will refer to the class definition ... currently discussion on lifecycle ... interesting approach regarding this ... TD template ... if you recognize of URI of the class definition michael: not only Thing Description for Hydra but some ontology for Hydra could be defined <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing michael: we can still use external ontologies <inserted> scribenick: kaz michael: interesting question on modeling ontology for Hydra victor: everything should be Hydra class ... if you want further semantic definition, you can include Hydra class definition michael: it has elegance to define everything within Hydra framework victor: even for abstract concept ... to me it's not flexible enough from semantic viewpoint <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing victor: it means every concept would be de-referencable, including abstraction concepts, that's not flexible <kaz> [18]Victor's pull request [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/229 <inserted> scribenick: kaz victor: my pull request above ... just a proposal johannes: would suggest to merge this in unless any objections darko: breakout session during the next f2f? ... you can raise a proposal victor: is Matthias available by the end of this week? johannes: would ask the group about if it's OK to merge this proposal (no objection) yongjing: question about gh-pages branch RESOLUTION: #299 can be merged, status remains as proposal to be discussed on TPAC johannes: automatically available as a rendered HTML at some URL Submission of WG Charter draft to W3M kaz: the draft charter itself is ok ... had discussions with candidate co-Chairs ... talking with W3M about the next step ... Jeff's suggestion is approving the WG charter today, finalizing the co-Chair list by the end of Friday, and sending out the AC review request on Monday <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing Johannes: anything preventing us submit the WG charter? ... today? Kaz: figure out the co-chair arrangement by Fri ... final solution shall be ready by Monday Co-chair discussion Kaz: will be another call on Friday about co-chair arrangement Joint Call with oneM2M Johannes: update info of the last joint call with oneM2M <inserted> scribenick: kaz yongjing: was there as the oneM2M rep ... good discussion ... expecting another joint call maybe after TPAC ... also there will be the oneM2M meeting in Oct. ... working on liaison between oneM2M and W3C kaz: please send a liaison letter to team-liaisons yongjing: will happen after the Oct meeting uday: can help you ... another question on the joint meeting with IRTF T2T johannes: research group from IRTF ... they're doing something quite similar to our work ... have been holding several joint meetings ... 2 days usually ... no registration fee ... announcement will be made on the mailinglist ... (shows Ari's message) -> [19]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Aug/ 0040.html Ari's message [19] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Aug/0040.html <victor> send an email to t2trg-chairs@ietf.org if you attend TPAC Preparation <DarkoAnicic> [20]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016, _Portugal,_Lisbon#Agenda [20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016,_Portugal,_Lisbon#Agenda -> [21]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016, _Portugal,_Lisbon#Agenda TPAC agenda wiki [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016,_Portugal,_Lisbon#Agenda johannes: outreach and ad-hoc meetings -> [22]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016, _Portugal,_Lisbon#Outreach_and_Ad-hoc_meetings joint meetings [22] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016,_Portugal,_Lisbon#Outreach_and_Ad-hoc_meetings johannes: the slot for automotive? kaz: still open, and to be discussed victor: question on "breakout"? darko: "breakout" means that the topic could be done as a breakout session kaz: maybe we can start to define the initial time specific agenda based on those joint meetings johannes: +1 <DarkoAnicic> Joint meeting with SDWG at TPAC: [23]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:F2F4 Tuesday 4pm [23] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:F2F4 Demo setup <inserted> scribenick: Yongjing Kaz: no cable connection , maybe we could use a converter between wifi and cable connection ... cost will be evaluated <inserted> scribenick: kaz johannes: need to see if it's possible to bring that kind of converter kaz: theoretically we can do that using a Linux PC <inserted> scribenick: DarkoAnicic Johannes: we should be prepared to work with no wire connection at the Demo/PlugFest Roll-up posters <dape> [24]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-lisbon /TPAC-2016-Poster-Template.svg [24] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-lisbon/TPAC-2016-Poster-Template.svg <dape> see also [25]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016, _Portugal,_Lisbon_Demo [25] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016,_Portugal,_Lisbon_Demo <DarkoAnicic> [26]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/File:TPAC-2016-roll-up.jpg [26] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/File:TPAC-2016-roll-up.jpg dape: each demo leader is responsible to generate the poster kaz: question on the "WoT" logo ... Yingying, have you talked with the Marcomm Team about the usage of the green "WoT" logo? yingying: will hold a dedicated call for that johannes: wondering if it would be problematic to have the logo yingying: MarComm team requested us to remove the WoT logo from W3C WoT Flyers. ... but need to check for this poster johannes: when can we get the final statement? yingying: will check after this call johannes: maybe by Friday, can we get the conclusion? yingying: will try Table status reports johannes: could show what the API, servient, etc., are like ... Michael, can we work together? ... let's have another call with you later can we set a deadline for the table status report? uday: maybe you can talk with Matthias? darko: offline discussion would be fine dape: possibly could try a printing company in Lisbon Presentation of Joint White Paper <DarkoAnicic> [27]http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.25758.13122 [27] http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.25758.13122 dape: or if we want to print it beforehand, we should finish it <DarkoAnicic> Dave is not present today kaz: need to check with Dave ... got inquiries from some of the JP Members too yongjing: I myself am also included in this effort, and am wondering if W3C is happy to consider this whitepaper as the one from W3C as a whole? ... rather than the one from those 4 individuals ... it's related to the usage of the W3C logo and the WoT logo too darko: Kaz will check with Dave and other W3C Team ... any other questions? (none) [ adjourned ] Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions 1. [28]#299 can be merged, status remains as proposal to be discussed on TPAC [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [29]scribe.perl version 1.144 ([30]CVS log) $Date: 2016/09/07 14:03:19 $ [29] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [30] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ -- Kaz Ashimura, W3C Staff Contact for Auto, WoT, TV, MMI and Geo Tel: +81 3 3516 2504
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