[wot] minutes - 5 October 2016

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2016/10/05-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking notes, Dom!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                                 WoT IG

05 Oct 2016

   [2]Agenda

      [2]
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_5_October_2016

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/05-wot-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Darko_Anicic, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Dom_Guinard,
          Masato_Ohura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Uday_Davuluru, Victor_Charpenay,
          Wonsuk_Lee, Takeshi_Yamada(observer),
          Keiichi_Tokuyama(observer), Daniel_Peintner,
          Kazuaki_Nimura, Johannes_Hund, Ryuichi_Matsukura

   Regrets
   Chair
          Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool

   Scribe
          domguinard

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Status of AC review
         2. [6]Group Processes
         3. [7]TD Restructuring
         4. [8]Scripting API
         5. [9]Hydra
         6. [10]TD Lifecycle
         7. [11]Servient Synchronization
         8. [12]Protocol Mapping
         9. [13]Security
        10. [14]F-Interop
        11. [15]Next F2F planning
        12. [16]OCF liaison
        13. [17]WoT landing page
     * [18]Summary of Action Items
     * [19]Summary of Resolutions
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Status of AC review

   <kaz> scribenick: domguinard

   <kaz> [20]AC review results (member-only)

     [20] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/wotwg2016/results

   kaz: so far we've got 24 supports for the AC review which means
   we have already cleared the threashold.

   mm: additionally Intel should also support the WG, so should
   EVRYTHNG

   (discussion on how to deal with liaison with IPSO on the WG
   Charter)

   MK: IPSO does not produce standards
   ... we should leave them out of the working group charter
   ... could be added to the IG side.

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   kaz: would be complicated to add to the IG Charter
   ... but we could add it to the IG wiki

   <kaz> scribenick: domguinard

   MK: let's leave the WG Charter as it is. We'll reach out to the
   commenter to explain why we are not adding IPSO

   RESOLUTION: leave charter as-is, add IPSO to liasons wiki,
   outreach to the commenter to explain setup

Group Processes

   MK: the technical work is done on GitHub. There are suggestions
   to link GitHub to the mailing list
   ... could generate quite a bit of traffic, confuse people with
   all the details of GitHub

   RESOLUTION: we leave the technical work on GitHub

   MK: the taskforces will review the issues and communicate the
   outcomes on the mailing list
   ... if you open an issue you need to push it forward towards
   resolution

   issue tracker is a good place to see why we reached a decision

   MC: do we keep the same GitHub for the IG and the WG? I vote
   for keeping them all in one GitHub account

   MK: good to keep them both in the same place
   ... once we the WG takes work from the IG we should remove the
   older work files from the IG repo to avoid confusion

   <Zakim> jhund, you wanted to mention tagging

   MK: I will look at how to sort this out using GitHub

   <jhund> ACTION mkovatsc to propose tagging and folder structure
   for github

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Propose tagging and folder
   structure for github [on Matthias Kovatsch - due 2016-10-12].

TD Restructuring

   <inserted> [21]TD Restructuring call minutes

     [21] https://www.w3.org/2016/10/05-wot-td-minutes.html

   SK: we are now discussing a new version of the Thing
   Description (TD) to be used for the next plugfest
   ... several issues were raised in the last TD meeting, they are
   tracked on GitHub
   ... have a look at the issues and please comment

Scripting API

   <kaz> [22]Lisbon F2F minutes

     [22] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-23-wot-minutes.html

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   MK: Still need to work on Scripting

Hydra

   <inserted> [23]Hydra breakout minutes

     [23] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-wot-td-minutes.html#item02

   MK: Victor wanted to work on Hydra, gathering people to work on
   that
   ... an item from the TPAC was to better understand what Hydra
   was bringing

   Johannes: got a number of emails providing feedback on the
   scripting topic, need to summarize and present here

TD Lifecycle

   <inserted> [24]TD Lifecycle breakout minutes

     [24] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-wot-td-minutes.html#item01

   MK: can someone report about the lifecycle breakout?

   <jhund> ACTION jhund to prepare and announce kick-off for
   scripting

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Prepare and announce kick-off
   for scripting [on Johannes Hund - due 2016-10-12].

   SK: the lifecycle of a product was presented, there were many
   open questions, e.g., how to represent this with languages such
   as RDF or JSON-LD, no concrete outcome yet, many open issues

Servient Synchronization

   <inserted> [25]Synchronization minutes

     [25] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-23-wot-minutes.html#day2-item07

   MK: there was a breakout about sync things and proxies

Protocol Mapping

   <kaz> [26]Protocol mapping minutes|

     [26] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-23-wot-minutes.html#day2-item07

   MK: needs progress on WS and MQTT mapping

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention other topics: matsukura-san
   for synchronization, kajimoto-san for lifecycle, joerg for
   f-interop

Security

   MC: we need to organise the work on security

   we do not have enough people who are active in the group
   working on security

   MC: intel could help with strong security people but we need
   other members to also contribute
   ... we need a variety of people how can look at different use
   cases

   kaz: Hashimoto San could contribute for the automotive side of
   things

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   kaz: can talk with Hashimoto-san from the Automotive WG and
   Lukasz Olejnik from the Device and Sensors WG

   <kaz> scribenick: domguinard

   ACTION McCool is going to push the security topic forward

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Is going to push the security
   topic forward [on Michael McCool - due 2016-10-12].

F-Interop

   kaz: we might want to have some follow up discussion with the
   F-Interop team

   MK: we might want to invite the F-Interop team to give a talk
   but should probably brainstorm first

Next F2F planning

   McCool: still waiting to hear more about logistics for the
   February F2F and Plugfest
   ... waiting to see if Intel and host it

OCF liaison

   McCool: need to understand where we are with OCF interop

   MK: one of the issues is that OCF is a closed group, we need to
   see how we can collaborate

WoT landing page

   MK: volunteers to lead this

   EVRYTHNG offered to help / lead that during the TPAC

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   kaz: we need to talk with the W3C MarComm Team as well

   <kaz> scribenick: domguinard

   <kaz> [27]WoT landing page

     [27] https://www.w3.org/WoT/

   MK: we need a logo and a visual identity, we would also need a
   landing page

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   MK: would like to have a page we can update more freely

   kaz: kind of like a sandbox page?

   MK: yes

   dom: mentions [28]http://webofthings.org/

     [28] http://webofthings.org/

   <kaz> scribenick: domguinard

   dom: we would like to add a W3C WoT tab to clarify the
   relationship between webofthings.org and the W3C WoT activities

   <kaz> scribenick: kaz

   kaz: relationship between this effort and the existing Comm TF?

   MK: more outreaching to the non-Members and let them know about
   our work

   [ adjourned ]

Summary of Action Items

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Propose tagging and folder
   structure for github [on Matthias Kovatsch - due 2016-10-12].

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Prepare and announce kick-off
   for scripting [on Johannes Hund - due 2016-10-12].

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Is going to push the security
   topic forward [on Michael McCool - due 2016-10-12].

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [29]leave charter as-is, add IPSO to liasons wiki, outreach
       to the commenter to explain setup
    2. [30]we leave the technical work on GitHub

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