RE: [WoT IG] Proposals for potential work items of a WoT WG

Kazuo-san,

Are you suggesting something similar to IDL?
http://www.omg.org/spec/IDL35/


BR,

J Lynn

From: kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com [mailto:kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [WoT IG] Proposals for potential work items of a WoT WG

Dave-san,

Thank you very much for adding items to be discussed in the wiki site.

I agree to take care of using terminology “API”. And I understand that it might be harder to standardize
API across various languages.

But in
“https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Proposals_for_WoT_WG_work_items#Proposal_Structure”

the objective of WoT API, we’ve introduced terminology “Abstract WoT API”.
This is some kind of classification of APIs and abstract description of functionality.

I think it is valuable to make consensus of such abstract API image to describe how the WoT servient
works.

BR,

PS.
Please enjoy your vacation ! ☺
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Kazuo Kajimoto
Senior Councillor of Groupwide Software Strategy,
Groupwide CTO Office
kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com<mailto:kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com>


From: Dave Raggett [mailto:dsr@w3.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:46 AM
To: Kajimoto, Kazuo (梶本 一夫)
Cc: Joerg.Heuer@siemens.com<mailto:Joerg.Heuer@siemens.com>; public-wot-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-wot-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [WoT IG] Proposals for potential work items of a WoT WG


On 10 Aug 2015, at 04:51, <kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com<mailto:kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com>> <kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com<mailto:kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com>> wrote:

Dear Joerg-san and WoT IG members,

I strongly agree with Joerg-san’s proposal that listing up items for preparing WG first,
before WG charter detail discussion.

I have risen to the challenge, see:

        https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Proposals_for_WoT_WG_work_items



I’m confident we could conclude abstract WoT API in spite of not only wide variety of
description languages but also wide variety of implementation models such as “Web
Centric”, “Smartphone Centric”, “Hub Centric” and “Cloud Centric” as described in attached
PDF file.

Thanks for providing those slides.  All of the cases you depict are supported by the above proposals.

Note that when a web page running in a browser wants to access “things” on a server, the browser and the single origin security policy imposes some restrictions, e.g. the range of protocols is limited to those that browsers expose to web page scripts. Furthermore, the single origin security policy will require the same domain name as for the HTTP server used to download the web page.

In my implementation work, I used NodeJS to create a server that supports both HTTP and WebSockets specifically to address these restrictions. In principle, CORS headers could be used to enable the use of servers with separate domain names.  Something to explore in the future is the potential for using the data channel exposed by WebRTC. This would enable a web page on one browser to access things hosted by a web page on another browser.

There is an open source implementation of NodeJS for Android that makes it easy to implement a web of things hub/server on a smart phone or tablet. NodeJS also works well on high end microcontrollers such as the Raspberry Pi, which makes it easy to experiment with home hubs.

I think we should be careful with how we use the term WoT API.  This could be used for scripting APIs, e.g. as exposed to JavaScript or other scripting languages. It may also be used in an abstract sense to describe a messaging protocol.  I have been careful to limit my use of API in the scripting language API sense, and bindings to protocols for the messaging protocol sense.

Whilst it would be desirable to have the same scripting APIs on different programming languages and IoT platforms, I suspect that IoT platforms will have significant variations in their needs, and as a result, it may be harder to standardise WoT APIs across platforms. It is for this reason that I have not included APIs in the work items in the proposed charter.


Best regards,
—
   Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org<mailto:dsr@w3.org>>