Re: [whatwg] Persistent and temporary storage

13 mar 2015 21:13 "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>
> On 14 Mar 2015 05:49, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Janusz Majnert <j.majnert@samsung.com>
> wrote:
> > > On 13.03.2015 13:50, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> > >> A big gap with native is dependable storage for applications. I
> > >> started sketching the problem space on this wiki page:
> > >>
> > >>    https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Storage
> > >>
> > >> Feedback I got is that having some kind of allotted quota is useful
> > >> for applications. That way they know how much they can put away.
> > >> However, this clashes a bit with offering something that is
> > >> competitive with native.
> > >>
> > >> We can't really ask the user to divide up their storage. And yet when
> > >> the user asks an application to store e.g. a whole bunch of music
> > >> offline we don't really want the user agent to get in the way if the
> > >> user already granted persistence.
> > >
> > > The real question is why having a quota is useful? Native apps are not
> > > controlled when it comes to storing data and nobody complains.
> >
> > Users install a relatively small number of apps, and the uninstall
> > flow (which deletes their storage) is also trivial.  Users visit a
> > relatively large number of web-pages (and even more distinct origins,
> > due to iframes and ads), and we don't have any good notion of
> > "uninstall" yet on the web; the existing flows for deleting storage
> > are terrible.
>
> First you need a notion of "install". On an android KitKat, open browser
> tabs are listed in the same way as open apps, which is a first step.
Should
> bookmarks and desktop icons be unified in a second step to indicate "
> installation"? Then, closing the tab of a non-bookmarked app would
indicate
> ability to remove local storage (implicit "uninstall", but still following
> typical browser caching strategies). Removing the bookmark/desktop icon
> would indicate then indicate explicit uninstall.

There's ongoing work on W3C Manifest for web applications (
https://w3c.github.io/manifest/) which introduces the notion of
installation for web apps. So this bit is covered.

>
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
>
> > > I think proper solution would be not to restrict the available space,
> but
> > > provide GUI for users to:
> > > * see how much space an app uses (if it exceeds some preset amount)
> > > * inspect the files in platform's file explorer
> >
> > Yeah, some improved UI flows along these lines would be hugely helpful
> > for this kind of thing.
> >
> > ~TJ

Received on Saturday, 14 March 2015 07:23:59 UTC