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Re: [whatwg] hit regions: limited set of elements for fallback content

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC)
To: whatwg <whatwg@lists.whatwg.org>
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> 
>> But there's plenty of things which make zero sense as fallback content. 
>> <input type=color>, for example, simply cannot be sanely implemented in 
>> canvas
> 
> as implemented input type=color is a button that when activated pops up 
> a picker dialog.

Only on some platforms.


> So the following code (as a simple example)
> 
> <canvas id="myCanvas" width="200" height="100"
> style="border:1px solid #000000;"
> onclick="document.getElementById('button').click();">
> <input type="color"" id="button">
> </canvas>
> 
> in Firefox 30/windows when the canvas is clicked the color picker is 
> displayed. likewise if the the input receives focus via the keyboard and 
> the enter/spacebar key is pressed the picker dialog is displayed. --

And that's great if you happen to have that exact implementation. But what 
about implementations where a colour palette drops down or is shown inline?


On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
> 
> I don't want to pronounce on sanity, but I don't think it has ever been 
> a major criterion for whether people *will* do something on the Web.

Sure. What we're talking about here is just how to guide people into what 
is more sane. This is a big part of what language design, especially 
opinionated language design, is all about.


> And it seems pretty easy to make a colour picker in canvas. I can 
> imagine that anyone who wanted a specific-purpose color picker (styled 
> to match the site, or customising the options, or...) would do it in 
> canvas or SVG, and my guess is the former would be more common...

Building a colour picked in canvas would be easy. Making it accessible 
using a backing logic based on radio buttons, a list box, or regular 
buttons, would be easy. Making it acessible based on <input type=color> 
would not work at all.

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