- From: Mike <tomshinsky@yandex-team.ru>
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:59:06 +0400
- To: whatwg@whatwg.org
Hey Folks,
Let’s get back to this subject as it seems there is still no solution. Recently we - Yandex.Browser - discussed with Opera if there could be a standard for page icons (let’s call it so) on NewTabPage that replace small screenshots with nice logos like this:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1830800/ss_tablo.jpg
This page icon might also contain a notification counter that would enable website to communicate with user and improve retention. Similar to mobile icons and notifications. But on desktop there might be more than one counter.
* Counter use-cases:
1.Mail (gmail, yahoo, yandex) - number of unread/new emails.
2.Social Networks (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn etc) - number of notifications, messages, friends requests.
3.E-commerce (Amazon, eBay, TaoBao etc) - number of cart items (waiting list items)
4.Microblogs and contend-based platforms (tumblr, youtube, ask, quora, news website etc) - number of new content.
* How the standard could look like:
<link rel=“newtabpage_icon" href=“logo_url" show_title=“true/false” (optional attribute; default: false - for main page; true - for internal) ntp_manifest=“manifest_url” (optional attribute; only for counter implementation) />
* How the manifest could look like:
I would suggest to postpone this discussion for later and focus on the first part. Step by step.
* What kind of issues do I see:
1) There’re 3 general formats of page icons:
a) square in Chrome, Opera
b) floating in FF and Safari
c) fixed ratio in Yandex (1:2), Maxthon (1:1,4)
Obvious there should just one icon provided by webmaster. So we need to agree on the aspect ratio (and size). Thus some developers will need to find a way how to handle it. But I believe it’s just a matter of fitting and resizing.
2) There is already a couple of standards or quasi-standads:
- favicons (most promising seems to be the increasing of their size and svg support)
- apple-touch-icon used by Apple and Android
- msapplication-TileImage used by MS
- Firefox OS icon (detached case)
- SpeedDial API by Opera (as an extension)
In Yandex.Browser we think how to improve our Tablo API and we would prefer to use some common approach rather than developing a proprietary standard. So guys, what do you think? Is there a place for such kind of standard or it’s already too tight among those semi-standards?
Mike Tomshinsky
Yandex.Browser
tomshinsky@yandex-team.ru
Received on Monday, 25 August 2014 18:59:34 UTC