- From: Bronislav Klučka <Bronislav.Klucka@bauglir.com>
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:00:32 +0100
- To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org
On 13.1.2013 14:52, TAMURA, Kent wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote: > >> > However, I'm not sure how this can be presented to the user. In the >> > example above I suggested that time input UI should be accompanied >> with >> > local time zone ("Europe/Helsinki" in my example). However, that would >> > suggest that this info would be transferred to the server and that the >> > server is expected to follow political time zone changes to that >> > timezone. The user could be assuming that he has defined a specific >> time >> > in a specific timezone (an absolute time as far has he knows). >> > >> > In the reality, the server would like to transfer *the responsibility* >> > for the possible future time zone changes to the user -- the server >> > expects user to come by and modify the absolute time in case the user >> > local timezone has been modified since entering this absolute time. I >> > have absolutely no idea how on earth this could be explained to casual >> > user. And even if it could be explained, I'm pretty sure the end user >> > wouldn't be happy with that responsibility. > >> Yeah. Indeed. > > >> > The next best choice would be to have datetime-with-timezone but >> > unfortunately >> > >> > (1) Official database for all timezones does not exist >> > (2) Official timezone names (or labels) do not exist >> > (3) Timezones are subject to future political decisions >> > >> > The problems (1) and (2) make transferring the timezone information >> from >> > the end user to the server very problematic and the problem (3) makes >> > any work to fix (1) and (2) a bit pointless. This is because even >> if UA >> > could successfully inform the server about the correct timezone, the >> > server could be using a week old timezone data that is not up to the >> > latest political events. Or the server might be using latest timezone >> > data but the UA could be using three year old data. In either case, >> the >> > absolute time in UTC could be different for the server and UA. > >> Indeed. > > So, I think it's impossible for us to build reasonable UI for > type=datetime. It should be removed from the specification. > > > > -- > TAMURA Kent > Software Engineer, Google datetime-local shoud be removed from specification and datetime should reflect user's settings (e.g. underlying OS) BK
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