- From: Bjartur Thorlacius <svartman95@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:53:15 -0000
The semantics of the placeholder and title attributes of inputs overlap slightly; the placeholder attribute may contain a hint to aid the user, while title is to contain "other advisory text." I can think of two valid uses of placeholder: example value, and the text "click here to type" or "enter search query here." The latter is obviously user interface that should be implemented by interactive user agents. Then there is the third use, use it as a title attribute (but with richer presentation). Users might want values falling under the first to be prefixed with "e.g.", "for example" or equivalent - but by allowing the latter use forces authors to add it to all example values, rather than letting the user's style sheet take care of it. Thus I suggest narrowing the semantics of the attribute to example values, allowing for easier styling by users (or agents, on their behalf). The second one should have no valid representation. Lastly, the specification should make it clearer what the title attribute is appropriate for; a description of the input or format. Also, I see no reason to suggest not rendering the text when the input is focused - in special on 1D devices such as speech - considering that JavaScript dependent sites (such as Hotmail) have placed example values in a small font below the input so that it can be visible while the user is typing, and, more importantly, after the input has been focused (whether automatically or manually), but before the user starts typing. As for the argument against using the title attribute for everything that it would break existing sites, I do believe rendering the title attribute of an empty and unfocused input inside of it is an improvement over displaying a tooltip a second or two after the user positions a cursor over the input (irrespective of focus). How on Earth is anyone to think of doing that? Displaying the title attribute in a floating box in a margin when an input is focused, followed by the example value prefixed with "e.g." would be my preferred rendering, but that's just my opinion. P.S. The last paragraph of the section on the pattern attribute links twice to <semantics.html#the-title-element>. Should it not link to <elements.html#the-title-attribute>?
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