- From: Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:09:18 -0400
If the user has the cursor positioned at the beginning or end of a line, or immediately before or after a space, and hits space, inserting a space at the current location would result in no visible effect. Thus browsers will typically insert an nbsp in at least some of these conditions, and/or convert surrounding spaces to nbsp's. This causes all sorts of problems: * An nbsp at the end of a line makes the last word longer, so when you hit space, the last word on the line might jump to the next line. Then when you type a letter, the nbsp gets converted to a regular space and the word jumps back to the previous line. (I observed this in Opera. IE and Gecko seem to have some special-case to avoid this; WebKit avoids it with a more general hack that I'll note later.) * An nbsp that winds up immediately before a word will cause the word to be indented if it happens to start a line. Gecko seems to be very careful to avoid this case, but all other engines do it sometimes. * A long run of spaces of which some are spaces and some are nbsp's can result in nbsp's at the beginning of a line. Thus if you type three spaces in between two words for whatever reason, in some cases the second word can be indented. This is probably not what users want. The behavior we really want here is to output regular spaces, and use white-space: pre-wrap. This matches the word processors I tested (Word 2007 and a moderately old OO.org): spaces don't collapse, and a line break can never occur before a space, but it can always occur after a run of spaces, and words followed by spaces don't get pushed to the next line. (This is how pre-wrap behaves in IE and WebKit, at least. In Gecko and Opera a long sequence of spaces will push the preceding word to the next line, but I'd say that's a bug.) If anyone here thinks it's practical to just set [contenteditable] { white-space: pre-wrap } in UA stylesheets and output spaces all the time, please say so. (I know the selector isn't quite right.) I assume it's not, because it will make existing contenteditable areas containing hand-authored content look wrong. If we did this, of course, authors would have to set white-space: pre-wrap on the resulting non-editable content as well, but at least then it would work exactly as we want. If they don't set it, it won't look quite the same as when the user edited it, but probably it wouldn't look drastically worse. It seems WebKit already does something kind of like this: in contenteditable areas, line breaks are allowed at nbsp, they just don't collapse. Thus user-created whitespace is partly nbsp's, and breaks but doesn't collapse. Pre-existing author-added whitespace doesn't contain nbsp and so collapses. And when you convert it to non-editable content, it still doesn't collapse but breaking might be different. This seems like a kind of evil hack, though. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best to handle this? It seems like no matter what we do, the best advice to authors would be to set white-space: pre-wrap on the editable region and the resulting editable content. So given that, I wish we could make this happen by default and avoid all the complexity. Failing that, I'll have to work out the least damaging way to use nbsp's here, but it's never going to behave right in some cases.
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