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From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 01:09:37 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0906060058020.1648@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

I include below a summary of the feedback received on the topic of a 
security-aware innerHTML.

Defining a spec-blessed whitelist of element, attributes, and attribute 
values is and filtering at the parser level is a significant new feature. 
While I see that it has value, I think on the short term it would be 
better to wait for a future version of HTML before introducing this 
feature; ideally once we have more implementation experience with 
experimental versions of this idea.

I would encourage browser vendors to introduce APIs similar to that 
discussed below, clearly marked as vendor-specific (e.g. for Firefox, 
something like .mozStaticInnerHTML).


On Wed, 6 May 2009, Adam Barth wrote:
>
> Rob and I were discussing the use case for IE8's toStaticHTML API and 
> thought it might make sense to standardize a more robust and 
> future-proof API for the same use case.
> 
> USE CASE
> 
> I receive an untrusted string, for example a weather report or a Twitter 
> status update, from postMessage or a cross-origin XMLHttpRequest, and I 
> want to display its content to the user without getting XSSed.
> 
> WORKAROUNDS
> 
> If the content is purely text (e.g., no images, styles, or hyperlinks), 
> then I can create a text node containing the string and insert it into 
> my page's DOM.  If the content is not purely text, I need to implement 
> an XSS filter in JavaScript (which folks commonly screw up).
> 
> PROPOSAL
> 
> In addition to innerHTML, DOM elements should expose an innerStaticHTML 
> property.  When set, innerStaticHTML should behave the same as innerHTML 
> except that scripts should not execute (even in event handlers) and 
> plug-ins should not be created.
> 
> EXAMPLE
> 
> <script>
> fetchMostRecentTweetFor("whatwg", function (tweet) {
>   document.getElementById("whatwg_tweet).innerStaticHTML = tweet;
> });
> </script>
> 
> WHY NOT toStaticHTML?
> 
> toStaticHTML addresses the same use cause by translating an untrusted 
> string to another string that lacks active HTML content.  This API has 
> two issues:
> 
> 1) The untrusted string -> static string -> HTML parser workflow 
> requires the browser to parse the string twice, introducing a 
> performance penalty and a security issue if the two parsing aren't 
> identical.
> 
> 2) The API is difficult to future-proof because future versions of HTML 
> are likely to add new tags with active content (e.g., like the <video> 
> tag's event handlers).  Either we'll have to commit to a toStaticHTML 
> algorithm that will be secure in all future versions of HTML, or we'll 
> have to change the input-output behavior of toStaticHTML in future 
> versions of HTML.
> 
> innerStaticHTML addresses the same use case without these issues.

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Jo??o Eiras wrote:
>
> As part of a browser implementation team I can clearly say that the 
> cases where scripts should, or should not run are very hard to implement 
> in a cross browser compatible way. Marking those scripts or plugins are 
> non-executable would make everything much more complex and bug prone. 
> Also, it would be impossible to do that for a onevent attribute without 
> all sorts of problems. The suggestion of marking content as 
> non-executable doesn't solve anything, because after setting 
> innerStaticHTML another script might serialize a piece of the affected 
> DOM to string and back to a tree, and the code could then execute, which 
> would not be wanted.
> 
> The only viable solution, from my point of view, would be for the UA to 
> parse the string, and remove all untrusted content from the result tree 
> before appending to the document. That would mean removing all onevent 
> attributes, all scripts elements, all plugins, etc. Basically, letting 
> the UA implement all the filtering.

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> 
> I think that's actually what Adam is proposing. At least, it's what I 
> had in mind when we discussed it.

On Thu, 7 May 2009, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote:
> 
> I'm in favor of this.  Browser-specified sanitizing, woo!
> 
> Obviously this doesn't replace the need for sandbox iframes (those are 
> still necessary for building a page using external html without 
> javascript), but it's a much easier solution for pretty much any 
> js-based sandbox-iframe situation.

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Philip Taylor wrote:
> 
> Could <iframe sandbox> work as a workaround?
> 
>     var iframe = document.createElement('iframe');
>     iframe.sandbox = ''; // (um, I hope this is right? I'm guessing
>                          // any non-null/undefined value enables 
>                          // sandboxing, or something)
>     iframe.seamless = true;
>     iframe.src = 'data:text/html,'+encodeURIComponent(tweet);
>     document.getElementById('whatwg_tweet').appendChild(iframe);

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> 
> Seamless sandboxed IFRAMEs are probably harder to implement, probably 
> heavier-weight, and won't work in all situations, such as if you want to 
> get safe inline content or want to safely manipulate the content before 
> displaying it.

On Thu, 7 May 2009, Kristof Zelechovski wrote:
>
> If toStaticHTML prunes everything it is not sure of, the danger of a 
> known language construct suddenly introducing active content is 
> negligible.  I am sure HTML5 specification editors bear that aspect in 
> mind and so shall they in the future.

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Kornel Lesi?~Dski wrote:
> 
> That is based on assumptions that:
> 1. parsing is expensive enough to warrant API optimized for this 
> particular case
> 2. browsers cannot optimize it otherwise
> 3. returned code will be ambiguous
> 
> In client-side scripts untrusted content comes from the network, which 
> means that parsing time is going to be miniscule compared to time 
> required to fetch the content (and to render it). My guess is that 
> parsing itself is not a bottleneck.
> 
> Second, it _is_ possible to avoid reparsing without special API for 
> this. toStaticHTML() may return subclass of String that contains 
> reference to parsed DOM. Roughly something like this:
> 
> function toStaticHTML(html) {
>     var cleanDOM = clean(parse(html))
>     return {
>         toString:function(){return unparse(cleanDOM)},
>         node:cleanDOM
>     }
> }
> 
> which should make common case:
> 
> innerHTML = toStaticHTML(html) just as fast as innerStaticHTML = html;
> 
> toStaticHTML() enables other optimisations, e.g. filtered HTML can be 
> saved for future use (in local storage) or string filtered once used in 
> multiple places.
> 
> Alternatively there could be toStaticDOM() method that returns 
> DOMDocumentFragment, avoiding reparsing issue entirely.
> 
> > 2) The API is difficult to future-proof because future versions of 
> > HTML are likely to add new tags with active content (e.g., like the 
> > <video> tag's event handlers).
> 
> When support for new tag is added to a browser, it would also be added 
> to its toStaticHTML()/innerStaticHTML, so evolution of HTML shouldn't be 
> a problem either way. Browser doesn't need to worry about dangerous 
> constructs it does not support.
> 
> Methods are easier to patch than properties in JavaScript, so if 
> implementation of existing toStaticHTML() turned out to be insecure, the 
> method could be easily replaced/patched on cilent-side, or applications 
> could post-process output of toStaticHTML(). It's not that easy with a 
> property.
> 
> I dislike APIs based on magic properties. Properties cannot take 
> arguments and we'd have to create new property for every combination of 
> arguments. If innerHTML was a method, instead of creating new property 
> we could extend it to be innerHTML(html, static=true).
> 
> If more sophisticated filtering becomes needed in the future, we could 
> have toStaticHTML(html, {preserve:['svg','rdf'], remove:'marquee'}), but 
> it would be silly to create another 
> innerStaticHTMLwithSVGandRDFbutWithoutMarquee property.

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