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[whatwg] Start position of media resources

From: Conrad Parker <conrad@metadecks.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:33:56 +0900
Message-ID: <dba6c0830904070033n823e42fn46ccc7bad840a85d@mail.gmail.com>
2009/4/7 Philip J?genstedt <philipj at opera.com>:
> On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 06:11:51 +0200, Chris Double <chris.double at double.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Eric Carlson <eric.carlson at apple.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Media time values are expressed in normal play time (NPT), the absolute
>>> position relative to the beginning of the presentation.
>>
>> I don't see mention of this in the spec which is one of the reasons I
>> raised the question. Have I missed it? If not I'd like to see the spec
>> clarified here.
>>
>> Chris.
>
> Indeed clarification is needed. In my opinion time 0 should correspond to
> the beginning of the media resource, no matter what the timeline of the
> container format says. This means that currentTime doesn't jump when
> playback begins and never goes beyond duration.
>
> Taking Ogg as an example, there's no requirement that the granulepos start
> at zero nor does a non-zero granulepos imply any special semantics such as
> "the beginning of the file has been chopped off". A tool like oggz-chop
> might retain the original granulepos of each packet or it could just as well
> adjust the stream to start at granulepos 0. Neither is more correct than the
> other, so I'd prefer we not try to infer anything from it, especially since
> such low-level timing information might be hidden deep inside the platform
> media framework (if it normalizes the time like XiphQT presumably does).
>
> Perhaps we would like to have some way to express where a resource is
> positioned on a timeline external to the resource itself, but could SMIL do
> this perhaps?

For Ogg, the start time of the original file (prior to chopping) is
recorded in the skeleton headers by oggz-chop, so this info is
intrinsically in the media format itself.

cheers,

Conrad.
Received on Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:33:56 UTC

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