- From: Eduard Pascual <herenvardo@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:27:47 +0000
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote: > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Sean Hogan wrote: >> >> I might be missing something obvious, but... >> >> When are ValidityState properties updated? And when are CSS pseudo-classes >> (:valid, :invalid, :in-range, :out-of-range) updated? > > Continually (in particular whenever the constraints or the values change > -- the validity states are defined in terms of those values). > > >> Many textual input form-controls would begin in one or another invalid >> state (valueMissing, patternMismatch) however authors would typically >> want CSS validity styles to apply only after checkValidity() - either a >> manual one or the automatic one performed by form-submission. > > Why? I agree with Sean's idea: at least on the initial state, controls showing up with "invalid" styling can be quite confusing to many users. It may depend a lot on the context, and even more on the user: although the initial "" for a required text field would be invalid, and even would make sense to visually convey that fact, many users may wonder "What did I wrong if I didn't do anything yet?". The best solution I can think of this would be an additional pseudo-class, such as ":default", ":initial-value", ":non-modified", or anything like that (I'm really bad at naming stuff, so please take those only as *examples*, because that's what they are), which could be used together depending on the needs of each site or application, like this: :valid { // code for "green" higlighting } :invalid { // code for "red" highlighting } :default { // overriding code to remove highlighting (or to apply "white" highlighting) } :default:invalid { // code for "yellow" highlighting } That's just an example. The idea is that an application may need to convey (through styling the validity pseudo-classes) the meanings "you have put something wrong here" and "you have to provide something here" as different concepts. Just my thoughts.
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