- From: Calogero Alex Baldacchino <alex.baldacchino@email.it>
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:27:03 +0100
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis ha scritto: > Calogero Alex Baldacchino wrote: > >> I know, and agree with the basic reasons; however I think that >> deriving an SGML version (i.e. by adding new entities and elements, as >> needed, to an html 4 dtd) should not be very difficoult, and could be >> worth the effort (i.e. to graceful degrade the presentation of a menu >> element thought as a context menu, wich content should not be shown >> untill a right click happens - if the u.a. cannot handle it, not >> showing it at all could be a reasonable behaviour). The derived sgml >> version should be aimed just for older browsers, while "newer", html >> 5-aware ones should just ignore any dtd reference. I'd consider this >> chance, at least on the fly - I suspect that the complete break out >> with the earlier sgml specifications might carry in an undesireable >> side-effect: from one side it solves the problems arised from sgml >> partial support/bad implementation and from browser-specific quirks, >> but from the other side no mechanism is provided to make >> sgml-somehow-based user agents to gain whatever awareness on the newly >> defined elements. > > What "SGML-somehow-based user agents"? While many web browsers switch > behavior based on what they detect in the first characters of an HTML > document (including the doctype declaration), there are no (or at any > rate, no remotely /popular/ web browsers) that read text/html DTDs in > the way required for this idea to be workable. > > Since all you're proposing is to bake implied STYLE values into the DTD, > it seems to me your use-case could be served by making an HTML5 > "foundation" stylesheet publicly available. > > Compare: > > http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/ > > http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/base/ > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis Oh, I thought (and hoped) a somewhat basic support were provided... I understand I was wrong... The "foundation" style sheet may be at least a partial solution, but if the browser is not aware of an element, I guess its style could not apply at all. Anyway, a standard default style sheet could be desireable both to have a standard basic layout on all browsers (as far as possible, because of possible differences in CSS compliance) and as a potential aid for assistive UAs, since the default sheet could cover a few basic aureal properties. Regards, Alex -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: A fine mese devi affrontare molte spese? Intesa Sanpaolo ti parla di Check-up finanziario. Prenotalo qui senza impegno Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8436&d=26-11
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