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From: Dave Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:09:53 -0800
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At 9:42  -0800 8/01/08, cramhead wrote:
>Is there a codec, potentially old or not 
>currently functioning,  that is free  and that 
>could be freely modified/improved to make a new 
>free codec that Apple and Nokia and others would 
>not challenge? Potentially, some funding could 
>be donated by groups like the FSF or commercial 
>players?

This is indeed one of the many questions on the 
table and under investigation.  Ideas of starting 
points, ways to address and clarify the issues, 
and so on, are gratefully received.  Feel free to 
look at the summary I edited for the HTML WG and 
add ideas, candidates, or courses of action that 
you feel are missing.  The more creativity that 
is applied here, the more likely we are to find a 
harmonious solution!

>
>Marc d'Entremont
>
>On Jan 7, 2008 1:12 PM, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) 
><<mailto:rudd-o at rudd-o.com>rudd-o at rudd-o.com> 
>wrote:
>
>If you need to pay ?1 for copies distributed, then it isn't royalty free and
>it can't be on the standard as a requirement.  Flat fee is not royalty free.
>
>YES, I MEANT BEING ABLE TO USE IT WITHOUT PAYING ANY KIND OF FEE.
>
>Am I too daft for my words to be understood?
>
>El Lunes 07 Ene 2008, escribi?:
>>  On Jan 7, 2008 7:36 PM, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) 
>><<mailto:rudd-o at rudd-o.com>rudd-o at rudd-o.com> 
>>wrote:
>>  > Out of the question, it must be royalty-free.  That's one of the
>>  > requirements, so unless you can convince the holder to go RF, no chance.
>>
>>  Did you even read what I wrote?
>>
>>  >>RAD doesn't charge royalties - period. You pay one flat-fee to use Bink
>>  >>or Smacker in your product.
>>
>>  If you mean being able to use it without paying _any kind_ of fee,
>>  that's another thing.
>>
>>  Royalty: a sum of money paid to a patentee for the use of a patent or
>>  to an author or composer for _each_ copy of a book sold or for _each_
>>  public performance of a work.
>>
>>  And about your last sentence.. As I said:
>>  >>It might be worth trying to contact RAD and see if this could be a
>>
>>  walkable road.
>>
>>  -- Federico BP
>
>
>
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-- 
David Singer
Apple/QuickTime
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