- From: timeless <timeless@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:39:30 +0300
On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:14, timeless wrote: > We'd probably be forced to lie and claim every codec imaginable. [including ogg (or rather vorbis, theora, speex, ...), as these are all "imaginable"] On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen at iki.fi> wrote: > Would the situation be any different for the <source> element fallback? yes. people wouldn't try to ask us questions we can't answer. instead they'd be giving gecko lots of data and it'd figure it out. > If MicroB.next ships without Gecko's built-in liboggplay <video> back end no comment about plans for releases ;-) > but ships with the GStreamer back end and a third party provides an Ogg > plugin for GStreamer, as a user I'd want video on Wikipedia to Just Work if > the third-party GStreamer Ogg plugin is installed. yes, i'd expect it to just work. however i'd also expect the apis not to work correctly. which means we'd probably be stuck with a case where we either lie and say ogg isn't supported (because we have no way to figure out if it's supported), which means it wouldn't work. or we'd lie and say it is supported (which means that if someone sniffs for ogg first, they'd send you ogg only and you would get nothing). people should just provide <source> tags for all formats they have in the order in which they'd like to send them. let the user agents figure it out. please don't encourage sniffing. footnote: if someone's annoying/evil and only provides one <source>, then yes, bad things will probably happen. Could i put in a plea for browsers to consider flagging "this site isn't nice, it probably won't work if you visit it with another device, you should complain to the content provider". if possible, useragents should be encouraged to encourage their users to demand more availability of content in more formats :).
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