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[whatwg] Using the HTML5 DOCTYPE as a new quirksmode switch

From: Asbjørn Ulsberg <asbjorn@tigerstaden.no>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:48:57 +0100
Message-ID: <op.to47zvmp16f2qb@quark>
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:51:14 +0100, Shadow2531 <shadow2531 at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> You make a good point. It could very well be an endless loop and
> there's no guarantee (or even past evidience to show) that IE's new
> standards mode would be up to par.

Yes, but only time will tell. If Microsoft continues to receive good  
competition from Firefox, Opera and Safari in the year to come, they have  
an incentive to continue developing IE. Faster development cycles,  
involvement in the standardisation processes and an open development  
community is what might make things different this time around.

> I guess at the least, it shows the desperate need to do something about  
> IE.

I actually think the problem lies within Microsoft itself. I recommend  
reading the following very entertaining articles from Joel Spolsky and  
Moishe Lettvin, respectively, about the Windows Vista shut down menu:

<http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/11/21.html>
<http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html>

I'm sure things are better in the IE camp, but if the development process  
of the shut down menu of Windows Vista is any indication of how it is to  
be a developer in Microsoft, then it's not really that surprising that  
their products end up like they do. Including Internet Explorer.

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