- From: Dave Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:14:39 +0900
At 19:07 -0500 11/12/07, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: >Well, consensus is going to be hard to find, with the conflicts of interest at >play here. Yes, I agree that consensus will be hard. I have spent quite some effort so far and I see quite a bit more to come. I don't think there is much conflict of interest at play here (in the classic sense), just conflict of perception and preferred direction. > And all that we want is that Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora, being the >ideal balance between least-encumbered and technically sufficient options, be >mentioned in the document that will be read by millions -- even if it wasn't >a SHOULD but a MAY or an ITWOULDBENICE. They more than deserve it. That is still a possibility. > >So, here's a challenge. Does Apple really *only* want to be able to claim >SHOULD conformance? No, we went with the consensus opinion at the HTML meeting that MUST would be better, if it can be achieved. >Reinstate the paragraph and put MAY instead of SHOULD, >then go crazy authoring H.264 content for the VIDEO tag. That resolution >lets you have SHOULD conformance. If you refuse, we know that it's a market >and monopoly thing. If you accept, we know you were being straightforward >all along. Most of us are less than satisfied with SHOULD, and MAY is in the opposite direction to that desired. > >El Mar 11 Dic 2007, Dave Singer escribi?: >> At 13:45 -0500 11/12/07, Fernando wrote: >> >Please reconsider the decision to exclude the recommendation of the >> >> Theora/OGG Vorbis codec in HTML 5 guidelines. >> >> This entire discussion is founded on a major misapprehension: that >> there has been a decision, and that decision was to exclude. This is >> simply not true; there is no decision either to include or exclude. >> There is a recognition that work is needed. >> >> I and others have spent a great deal of time on this problem already, >> working with a number of people, including the W3C staff. Many of us >> -- maybe all of us -- agree we need to find a solution that enables >> broad interoperability and is in accord with w3c and web practices. >> We have not yet reached consensus on having found it. That's all. > > > >-- > > Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) <rudd-o at rudd-o.com> > Rudd-O.com - http://rudd-o.com/ > GPG key ID 0xC8D28B92 at http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ > >The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. > -- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar" > >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc >Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. > >Attachment converted: DaveG49:signature 119.asc ( / ) (001051A4) -- David Singer Apple/QuickTime
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