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[whatwg] Looking at menus in HTML5...

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:10:56 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708080807520.26028@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
> > > 
> > > So where this context menu feature request comes from?
> > 
> > It's a frequent request from Web app developers.
> Do you have any links for them?

Not off-hand. You can probably find them in the archives.

> > I gave two earlier; Google Docs and Spreadsheets is another. Context 
> > menus that are "non-styleable" are used in almost all desktop 
> > applications, so any Web analogue to desktop applications could well 
> > want to use one. We frequently get requests for how to do this.
> Question was: "Do you have any examples of exisiting web applications 
> that will benefit *significantly* from having that flat puristic context 
> menus?"

I posit that the examples I gave are applications that would benefit 
significantly. We may disagree on what is significant, of course, that is 

> Google Maps uses two types of context menus/panels:
> http://www.terrainformatica.com/w3/gmap.jpg

The top one in that picture is not a context menu.

> So you say that if one of it will be implemented as <select type="menu"> 
> then this will significantly improve quality of this application or 
> solve many problems. Sounds a bit artificial, isn't it?

Implementing the bottom as a <menu type="context"> would significantly 
improve the user experience, yes.

> And here is an example of menu used in Google Spreadsheet 
> http://www.terrainformatica.com/w3/gcalc.jpg
> So you say that Google Spreadsheet will use that plain text menus?

Again, we are talking about context menus here, not about drop-down menus. 
I agree that drop-down menus and menu buttons are not addressed by the 
current draft, and I imagine we'll address those in a future version.

> And where these 80% came from? If three applications you provided will 
> not benefit from proposed solution?

I disagree with the premise of your question.

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