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[whatwg] <include> element

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:43:07 -0700
Message-ID: <4631D3BB.5050106@sicking.cc>
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:19:49 +0100, Jonas Sicking <jonas at sicking.cc> wrote:
> 
>> This is an idea I have had floating around in my head for a while and
>> a recent couple of threads reminded me I really need to post it here.
>>
>> Basic idea:
>> The idea is basically an element like <iframe> but that renders the 
>> linked page
> 
> Something similar has been proposed recently:
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-April/010801.html

Yes, that was the post that originally reminded me I should send in my 
proposal.

> IMHO such includes don't solve the biggest problem of frames - that 
> there's only a single usable URL and all actual content is in orphaned 
> scraps of documents.

This problem isn't specific to frames. It also happens with pages that 
uses script. Especially pages that make heavy use of AJAX.

However this isn't always a problem. For example when you are referring 
to a page that contains ads, you don't generally care to specify which 
ad is shown in the <iframe>s of that page.

Same thing with my google suggest example, there you don't really care 
about showing the results of a particular search. In fact, doing so 
would look very wrong since that would create a missmatch between the 
search results and the empty input box.

> I suggest investigating further concept of "ID overlays" instead:
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-April/010805.html

I don't really see how those overlays could be used to create the two 
examples I brought up in my original posting.

/ Jonas
Received on Friday, 27 April 2007 03:43:07 UTC

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