- From: Brad Neuberg <bkn3@columbia.edu>
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:03:14 -0700
Sounds like scope creep to me, and outside the purview of WHAT. Brad At 01:00 PM 4/28/2005, Ian Hickson wrote: >On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Matthew Raymond wrote: > > > > I've been pondering how someone would have 3D graphics inside a Web > > application using current web standards and some in development (XBL2, > > HTML5, et cetera), and while I have a general idea, I'm not exactly sure > > how it would work. > >The current idea is to do the same for '3d' as for '2d', probably using an >OpenGL ES API subset, tweaked to be appropriate for use from JavaScript. > >Unfortunately I know very little about 3D graphics myself so someone else >is going to have to actually define the API. > > > > ...what happens when you want objects for your 3D world to exist in the > > DOM? What happens when you want 3D effects that change when you use a > > different stylesheet? > >What's the use case? The use cases that people have raised for 3D so far >are primarily games (as in Quake-like things). In those, you don't really >need to have a DOM representation, and stylesheets are unlikely to be used >for styling them. > >Having said that, there are probably use cases for declarative 3D, just >like there are with declarative 2D. And for those you would use a >dedicated markup language, just like you use SVG for 2D graphics. > > > > 1) A Web standards version of Microsoft's "Flipin' CD Button" example. > >The markup for that is easy: > > <input type="button"> > >...or some such. Making it actually look like something 3D would involve >CSS, XBL, and either X3D or <canvas> (or some other 3D solution). > > > > 2) An example of something similar to Quake done entirely as a web > > application, with a HUD. > >That's pure <canvas>, with a 3D context for the 3D, and a 2D context for >the HUD. > > > > 3) An example of a simple 2D GUI with 3D effects as a web application. > >Not sure what you mean there. > >-- >Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL >http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. >Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Brad Neuberg, bkn3 at columbia.edu Senior Software Engineer, Rojo Networks Weblog: http://www.codinginparadise.org ===================================================================== Check out Rojo, an RSS and Atom news aggregator that I work on. Visit http://rojo.com for more info. Feel free to ask me for an invite! Rojo is Hiring! If you're interested in RSS, Weblogs, Social Networking, Java, Open Source, etc... then come work with us at Rojo. If you recommend someone and we hire them you'll get a free iPod! See http://www.rojonetworks.com/JobsAtRojo.html.
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