- From: Jim Ley <jim.ley@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:57:18 +0100
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:48:37 +0000 (UTC), Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Jim Ley wrote: > >> I'm using "open" in the senses of: > >> * Accessible to all; unrestricted as to participants: an open > >> competition. > >> * Free from limitations, boundaries, or restrictions: open registration. > >> * Free of prejudice; receptive to new ideas and arguments: She listened > >> to the proposal with an open mind. > > > > I'm amazed I didn't believe a WG with even less openness than the W3C > > could exist, let alone created. > > In what way is what I describe above more closed than the W3C? As far as I > can tell, the W3C is not open in _any_ of the ways described above, Anyone can join the W3C working group - it either takes cash (not even that much) or you can request an invitation as an invited expert, so you can actually join the WG, unlike here, where you can just comment on the public list - something you can do on W3 lists too. So on the first defintion the W3C is more open than the WHAT-WG IMO. The W3C doesn't limit what it's willing to discuss. The WHAT-WG will not change XHTML WF conformancy requirements because "XML is out of scope". So the W3C is more free from more limitations than the WHAT-WG. The 3rd definition, well I don't believe an organisation can be closed to new ideas, and certainly haven't found the individuals to be any more closed within the W3C than outside, not sure how we could really judge it in any case. > > So either it's not an open process as you've "never said" or you're > > going against the position paper that was supposed to be what told us > > this was all about - which is it? > > We used the word "open" to mean its dictionary definitions that I quoted > above. I think it's a shame you didn't explain this previously as I think I'd used my interpretation many times before, it might've saved this whole sub-thread. Still, we might aswell return to more substantive things, no need to reply (unless you want to of course). Jim.
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