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[whatwg] [web-apps] Some comments

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:14:51 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0408252312090.21417@dhalsim.dreamhost.com>
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Matthew Raymond wrote:
> 
>    Obviously, unsupported Javascript objects can't degrade, but I think 
> the only ones defined so far in WA1 are those that already exist and are 
> widely used by multiple browsers.

While obviously things that are already supported have priority, I expect 
we will be adding new interfaces. (e.g. the stuff in WF2 for forms, and 
the canvas stuff in WA1.)


>    The idea isn't to prevent webmasters from creating markup that 
> doesn't degrade gracefully. The idea is to allow webmasters to create 
> markup that degrades gracefully but still had the new functionality in 
> compliant browsers.

Right. Exactly.


>    What, then, makes using WAML any different from using XUL + HTML4? If 
> WAML requires a compliant browser simply to be used, why even bother 
> developing it when you can use XUL 1.0 right now? If you're going to 
> throw graceful degradation out the window, better to create a 
> standardized subset of XUL, a language which has already seen practical 
> use in tandem with CSS and which supports just about any widget you 
> might need. It should be noted, however, that this would be beyond the 
> scope of the WHAT WG's charter.

Yup. If backwards compatibility is not an issue, then XForms, XUL, Flex, 
SVG, Flash, etc, all exist already.

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