- From: Matthew Raymond <mattraymond@earthlink.net>
- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:30:50 -0400
Ian Hickson wrote:
>>>At the moment the spec says it would be:
>>>
>>> <switch>
>>> <section>
>>> <h1>Exclusive Section 1</h1>
>>> </section>
>>> <section>
>>> <h1>Exclusive Section 2</h1>
>>> </section>
>>> </switch>
>>
>>I presume there is a mechanism for selecting a specific section. If so,
>>would there be markup that would serve a function similar to a VB
>>tabstrip? Will there be a markup solution to selecting a section?
>
> The above is not a tabbed system, it's just a list of mutually exclusive
> sections.
That is hinted at in my previous comments.
> Tabs are not mutually exclusive, they are just an unordered
> group of related sections that are usually shown such that only one is
> visible at any one time.
Why do we need semantic mutual exclusion at all? It seems to be some
kind of semantic justification of the presentational value of having a
group of sections where only one can display at a time. On a practical
level, just how useful is non-presentational mutual exclusion in markup?
> Anyway, the spec currently has a separate section for tabs, which says
> that the tabbed version of the above would be:
>
> <tabbox>
> <section>
> <h1>Section 1</h1>
> </section>
> <section>
> <h1>Section 2</h1>
> </section>
> </tabbox>
Quick note: I have to say, I don't like the header tags being
treated as tag labels. There are cases where we've done something
similar, but only when absolutely necessary. I'm a little concerned that
we're getting too clever with our markup rather than having a
straight-forward standard.
> The name <tabbox> will probably be changed to <group>. See the spec for
> better examples. (Graceful degradation as your example had is possible
> too, since non-section elements in the tabbox are ignored.)
My <tabstrip> is actually more powerful, because it allows tabs to
be used separately from the sections concept. For instance, the
<tabstrip> could be used with frames:
<tabstrip>
<tabs>
<tab for="section1.htm" target="main">Section 1</tab>
<tab for="section2.htm" target="main">Section 2</tab>
<tab for="section3.htm" target="main">Section 3</tab>
</tabs>
</tabstrip>
It could also be used with simple Javascript events, so vendors
could keep tabstrip even if they decide to pass on <section>.
>>> <page>
>>> <pages>
>>
>> I actually kinda like the page metaphor. I presume there is a reason you
>>rejected this? (Other than the obvious fact that the idea of pages within
>>pages of an HTML document is a little strange.)
>
> Yeah. They're not really pages. You could have several of these at once.
What is the motivation for passing on the <deck> of <cards>
metaphor? To presentational in nature?
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