- From: Bernard Aboba <Bernard.Aboba@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:53:51 +0000
- To: youenn fablet <yfablet@apple.com>
- CC: Lennart Grahl <lennart.grahl@gmail.com>, "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>
Given that the current WebRTC-QUIC specification is a work-in-progress undergoing a (major) revision, and the IETF QUIC specification is also changing, have these tests ever been run successfully? While we might move the tests to another directory, the existing tests seem to be Overtaken-by-Events. > On Oct 14, 2018, at 21:49, youenn fablet <yfablet@apple.com> wrote: > > I agree with Lennart that these tests should be isolated from other WPT tests: > - These tests are not as mature as the other tests which might be used to validate WebRTC 1.0 compliance and spec coverage. > - It should be easy to not import these tests until one decides to add support for this feature. > webrtc/quic sounds like a good compromise to me. > Y > >> On Oct 13, 2018, at 3:22 AM, Lennart Grahl <lennart.grahl@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry for digging this up: I would like to come back to the WPT tests >> here for a second: Since we have not adopted the QUIC extension so far, >> it should not be in the "webrtc" directory because that is misleading. I >> would propose to move these tests into their own "webrtc-quic" directory >> or into a subdirectory "drafts" or "experimental". >> >> What do you think and what would you prefer? >> >> Cheers >> Lennart >> >>> On 30.08.2018 00:52, Bernard Aboba wrote: >>> The QUIC API for WebRTC[4] was originally developed by the ORTC CG as part of the ORTC specification [5]. >>> >>> >>> Peter Thatcher presented it to the WebRTC WG at last year's TPAC meeting in SFO [1]. So as to make it easier for the WEBRTC WG to evaluate, the QUIC-related sections of the ORTC specification were broken out into a separate specification using respec boilerplate which referred to the WEBRTC WG, rather than the ORTC CG. >>> >>> >>> Feedback on WebRTC-QUIC and WebRTC-ICE was subsequently solicited from the WEBRTC WG on the mailing list [2], at the January 11, 2018 Virtual Interim meeting [3] and also at the F2F meeting in Stockholm. >>> >>> >>> As you noted, at the Stockholm WEBRTC WG meeting, there was no consensus to adopt WebRTC-QUIC. The minutes do show interest in further work relating to ICE. >>> >>> >>> So it appears to me that WebRTC-QUIC is currently a work item of the ORTC CG and probably should have its boilerplate modified to indicate that status. WebRTC-ICE also has WebRTC WG boilerplate, but it is not related to work in the ORTC CG.> >>> [1] Presentation: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2011%2F04%2Fwebrtc%2Fwiki%2Fimages%2F8%2F8a%2FWebRTCWG-2017-TPAC.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=RBu2NJYI0n7znzTlKgOubmsRYjUT%2FCrtyUwNdUpRwAQ%3D&reserved=0 (starting at slide 82) >>> Minutes: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F11%2F06-webrtc-minutes.html%23item24&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=oQfDF%2FFfLV%2BwCp0if%2BQiQ3vFu5JLZp%2BYG30F2R7zn%2Bg%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> [2] https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fpublic-webrtc%2F2018Jan%2F0037.html&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=PsUufUvfYsmaZ%2F9pV6mPiQGMtUoxJbpktNYgGP%2FKATg%3D&reserved=0 [3] https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2018%2F01%2F11-webrtc-minutes%23item05&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=RMNHEoDeHUuBYUyE0oIj89BXaO39SYtOnU%2B%2FQ67sT9k%3D&reserved=0 [4] https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwebrtc-quic%2F&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=T0QLvlYmZKz4Tb6aPaJ5bY7fMQ6S%2F9b0DPkltd%2Fw%2Bm0%3D&reserved=0 [5] https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdraft.ortc.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsoft.com%7Cbedac03d3a72454e287008d63248c7b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636751685502707995&sdata=%2BuH4f2wsXEovahbs%2FEEJ7nxOHCyuLNnaUOICD7vuG5w%3D&reserved=0 >> > >
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