- From: Cullen Jennings (fluffy) <fluffy@cisco.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 23:30:03 +0000
- To: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
- CC: Tim Panton <thp@westhawk.co.uk>, Bernard Aboba <Bernard.Aboba@microsoft.com>, "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>
By happy to join a call on this. Let me be clear that I think is a very bad idea postpone DTLS handshake. I think the tls-id should be in the offer and both sides should use it. > > On May 3, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:09 AM, T H Panton <thp@westhawk.co.uk> wrote: > For what it is worth I've come up with a scenario where this can happen, but I think it is unlikely. > > If you have > 1) an un-ordered or lossy signalling transport (SIP over UDP or JSON over an SCTP _unordered_ channel) > 2) are using trickle-ice which > 3) are sending a=candidates containing ufrag and password set > > Then you could (theoretically) have the situation where the candidate (with ufrag/pass) arrives before the answer with the fingerprint. > > If the ICE consent and DTLS handshakes complete (2 x rtt) before that delayed answer arrives, you could legitimately get > media sent and received (2.5 rtt) before the fingerprint can be used to verify the channel. > > This case seems to be legitimate but extremely unlikely. > > As Roman says, "prohibit to start DTLS handshake until the answer is received" will cover that unlikely case nicely. > > > Do you agree with me that it is a good idea to postpone DTLS handshake until answer is received? > > I see no benefit in allowing DTLS handshake to proceed before the answer is received by the end point, but I do see a lot of potential problems. As I have mentioned before the main motivation for doing this was to convert unusual call scenarios to the most common behavior and to avoid unverified media and handshake in the process. I think this would make the whole negotiation process easier to test and will prevent unexpected negotiation flows. > > Regards, > _____________ > Roman Shpount >
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