Re: [MMUSIC] Should we put the SCTP max message size in the SDP?

RFC 4566 doesn't seem to prohibit it, but there could be other precedent
that I am missing.

  a=fmtp:<format> <format specific parameters>

         This attribute allows parameters that are specific to a
         particular format to be conveyed in a way that SDP does not
         have to understand them.  The format must be one of the formats
         specified for the media.  Format-specific parameters may be any
         set of parameters required to be conveyed by SDP and given

         unchanged to the media tool that will use this format.  At most
         one instance of this attribute is allowed for each format.

         It is a media-level attribute, and it is not dependent on
         charset.



On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>wrote:

>  On 11/26/2013 01:12 AM, Justin Uberti wrote:
>
>  I agree with Eric's suggestions, including '0' as a special case.
>
>  Regarding naming, I kind of prefer "max-", as there is ample precedent
> for this, e.g. maxptime, maxplaybackrate in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-spittka-payload-rtp-opus-03. In fact,
> for optimal consistency I would argue for |maxmsgsize|.
>
>  Regarding how the parameter is specified, I beg you not to use
> positional arguments, and use fmtp named arguments instead, e.g.
>  a=sctpmap:5000 webrtc-datachannel
>  a=fmtp:5000 maxmsgsize=65536
>
>
> Does a=fmtp bind to arbitrary identifiers? I thought it only bound to
> payload types...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>wrote:
>
>>  Your proposal all sounds good to me.  I don't feel strongly one way or
>> the other about "max-" vs. "supported-".
>>
>>
>>  On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For concreteness, here's what I suggest.
>>>
>>>  - An SDP attribute which indicates the maximum message size that
>>>   the endpoint is willing to accept. The other side should assume that
>>>   any larger message will be rejected, though there is no requirement
>>>   that it do so (just as there is no requirement to behave in any
>>>   particular way if an unadvertised RTP PT is received).
>>>
>>>  - If the attribute is not present, the assumption is that there is some
>>>   sensible (small) default that matches the behavior of existing
>>>   browsers. 64k?
>>>
>>>  - An attribute value of '0' means I will do my best with whatever you
>>>   send me, subject to memory capacity, etc.
>>>
>>>  - Proposed name: 'max-message-size'
>>>
>>>  -Ekr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Martin Thomson <
>>> martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23 November 2013 13:32, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>>> > 3. The semantics should be that each side just gets to inform the
>>>> other
>>>> > side of their value, not that it's negotiated.
>>>>
>>>>  This is especially important.  "negotiation" here makes zero sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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