- From: Gili <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>
- Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:44:00 -0400
- To: "piranna@gmail.com" <piranna@gmail.com>
- CC: public-webrtc <public-webrtc@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <51CCC030.7090807@bbs.darktech.org>
Sorry no. You can find the slides at http://lcsd05.cs.tamu.edu/slides/keynote.pdf but honestly you're missing 99% of the content if you just read the slides. The real meat is in the video. Take me word for it, this is the best API design video I have come across in the past 10 years. It's worth the effort ;) Gili On 6/27/2013 6:37 PM, piranna@gmail.com wrote: > > Don't you have the content in readable format? My listening is not so > good... :-/ > > El 28/06/2013 00:28, "Gili" <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org > <mailto:cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org>> escribió: > > Hi, > > I'd like to discuss the issue that is closest to my heart, > which is designing WebRTC for normal web developers, not telecom > experts. > > I'll fire the opening salvo by recommending you watch this > video: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/effective-api-design > > As I mention to Cullen, this talk has shaped my professional > career. Pay special attention to "Characteristics of a Good API", > especially his explanation of the last bullet point :) > > Thank you, > Gili > > On 6/27/2013 10:19 AM, Gili wrote: >> Hi, >> >> (If you'd like to respond to individual points, please start >> a separate topic) >> >> I'd like to start a discussion of issues that came up during >> the WebRTC World conference (in sessions and while speaking with >> Dan Burnett and Cullen Jennings): >> >> 1. Ending the VP8/H264 war: A proposal was made to mandate a >> patent-unencumbered codec (whose patents have expired or are >> not enforced) as mandatory and optionally upgrade to other >> codecs such as VP8 or H264 depending on peer capabilities and >> personal preferences. VP8 guys can use VP8. H264 guys can use >> H264. And if the two camps need to chat with each other they >> can fall back on H263. This gives you the flexibility of >> arbitrary codecs without the need to do transcoding. >> 2. The WebRTC API needs to focus on normal web developers, not >> not telecom experts: The conversation on this mailing list is >> unduly skewed in favor of telecom experts which make up a >> tiny minority of WebRTC end-users. We need to find a way to >> collect feedback from the Javascript community at large in >> order to ensure that the API facilitates their use-cases. The >> proliferation of WebRTC SDKs for end-users (the conference >> was full of them) is a strong indication that there is a gap >> to be filled. >> 3. Implementers vs End-users: The specification document has two >> target audiences, implementers and end-users. We need to >> provide implementers with a lot of low-level detail but make >> as little guarantees as possible to end-users to leave the >> door open to future change (without breaking backwards >> compatibility). We discussed explicitly marking-up sections >> of the specification "for implementers" or "for end-users" or >> separating the specification into separate documents. We need >> to make it clear, for example, that the specification does >> not make any guarantees regarding the contents of the SDP >> token. Implementers need a detailed breakdown in order to >> implement WebRTC 1.0 but end-users may not rely on these >> details because the token might not even be SDP in future >> versions. >> 4. SDP: Users should interact with the Constraints API instead >> of SDP. It is true that there are some use-cases that are not >> yet covered by this API (forcing you to manipulate the SDP >> directly) but the plan is to address all these use-cases by >> 1.0 so users never have to interact with SDP directly. "If >> your use-case is not covered by the Constraints API, please >> tell us right away!" >> 5. Offer/Accept: There are plans to enable peers to query each >> other's capabilities and change constraints (and as a result >> the offer/answer) in mid-call. >> 6. Troubleshooting WebRTC: We need to do a better job diagnosing >> WebRTC problems. We need a user-friendly application (run by >> non-developers!) for quickly debugging network and microphone >> problems (Skype does this), and allow users to drill down >> into more detail if necessary. We also need programmatic >> access to this API so WebRTC applications can detect problems >> at runtime and decide (for example) to refund users who paid >> for a call that was subsequently aborted due to network problems. >> 7. Use-cases, use-cases, use-cases: "Tell us what is wrong, not >> how to fix it". You are a lot more likely to get traction for >> your problems if you help us understand your use-cases then >> trying to argue for change for its own sake. On the flip side >> for specification editors, I encourage you to actively engage >> posters (ask for these use-cases) instead of ignoring >> discussion threads ;) >> >> I encourage other people who attended the conference to >> contribute their own discussion points. >> >> (If you'd like to respond to individual points, please start >> a separate topic) >> >> Thank you, >> Gili >> >
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