- From: ᛏᚮᛘᛘᚤ <tommyw@google.com>
- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:50:19 +0100
- To: Jim Barnett <Jim.Barnett@genesyslab.com>
- Cc: Adam Bergkvist <adam.bergkvist@ericsson.com>, public-webrtc@w3.org, Travis Leithead <travis.leithead@microsoft.com>
- Message-ID: <CALLKCfPWwVutXw_GBkcu-VqPtq_mqrS-49yUM1p90S_7433UHg@mail.gmail.com>
The suggestion was that pc.canSendDTMF and pc.sendDTMF would take a MediaStreamTrack as one of the input parameters, and obviously fail if that track wasn't added to the pc in question. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Jim Barnett <Jim.Barnett@genesyslab.com>wrote: > If DTMF is sent via PeerConnection, rather than on a specific track, can > there ever be ambiguity about which Track the DTMF is actually sent on, and > could this ambiguity ever cause problems on the receiving end? I can’t > personally think of a case where there would be a problem, but it’s worth a > few moments’ consideration.**** > > ** ** > > **- **Jim**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Tommy Widenflycht (ᛏᚮᛘᛘᚤ) [mailto:tommyw@google.com] > *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 8:08 AM > *To:* Adam Bergkvist > *Cc:* public-webrtc@w3.org; Travis Leithead > *Subject:* Re: New API surface - inbound outbound streams/tracks**** > > ** ** > > You are proposing to introduce an extremely complicated inheritance > structure instead of adding 3 or 4 methods on RTCPeerConnection. How is > that better? And even more important how is this to be explained to our > users? **** > > ** ** > > pc.addStream(stream);**** > > var outboundStream = pc.localStreams.getStreamById(stream.id);**** > > var outboundAudio = outboundStream.audioTracks[0]; // pending syntax**** > > if (outboundAudio.canSendDTMF)**** > > outboundAudio.insertTones("123", ...);**** > > > Having the same MediaStream magically change type feels just weird. To be > compared to**** > > ** ** > > pc.addStream(stream);**** > > if (pc.canSendDTMF(...))**** > > pc.sendDTMF(...);**** > > > I agree that the second example won't win any prices for "Best designed > API of the year" but it is infinitely simpler and to the point.**** > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Adam Bergkvist < > adam.bergkvist@ericsson.com> wrote:**** > > Hi > > A while back I sent out a proposal [1] on API additions to represent > streams that are sent and received via a PeerConnection. The main goal was > to have a natural API surface for the new functionality we're defining > (e.g. Stats and DTMF). I didn't get any feedback on the list, but I did get > some offline. > > I've updated the proposal to match v4 of Travis' settings proposal [2] and > would like to run it via the list again. > > Summary of the main design goals: > - Have a way to represent a stream instance (witch tracks) that are sent > (or received) over a specific PeerConnection. Specifically, if the same > stream is sent via several PeerConnection objects, the sent stream is > represented by different "outbound streams" to provide fine grained control > over the different transmissions. > > - Avoid cluttering PeerConnection with a lot of new API that really > belongs on stream (and track) level but isn't applicable for the local only > case. The representations of sent and received streams and tracks (inbound > and outbound) provides the more precise API surface that we need for > several of the APIs we're specifying right now as well as future APIs of > the same kind. > > Here are the object structure (new objects are marked with *new*). Find > examples below. > > AbstractMediaStream *new* > | > +- MediaStream > | * WritableMediaStreamTrackList (audioTracks) > | * WritableMediaStreamTrackList (videoTracks) > | > +- PeerConnectionMediaStream *new* > // represents inbound and outbound streams (we could use > // separate types if more flexibility is required) > * MediaStreamTrackList (audioTracks) > * MediaStreamTrackList (videoTracks) > > MediaStreamTrack > | > +- VideoStreamTrack > | | > | +- VideoDeviceTrack > | | * PictureDevice > | | > | +- InboundVideoTrack *new* > | | // inbound video stats > | | > | +- OutboundVideoTrack *new* > | // control outgoing bandwidth, priority, ... > | // outbound video stats > | // enable/disable outgoing (?) > | > +- AudioStreamTrack > | > +- AudioDeviceTrack > | > +- InboundAudioStreamTrack *new* > | // receive DTMF (?) > | // inbound audio stats > | > +- OutboundAudioStreamTrack *new* > // send DTMF > // control outgoing bandwidth, priority, ... > // outbound audio stats > // enable/disable outgoing (?) > > === Examples === > > // 1. ***** Send DTMF ***** > > pc.addStream(stream); > // ... > > var outboundStream = pc.localStreams.getStreamById(stream.id); > var outboundAudio = outboundStream.audioTracks[0]; // pending syntax > > if (outboundAudio.canSendDTMF) > outboundAudio.insertTones("123", ...); > > > // 2. ***** Control outgoing media with constraints ***** > > // the way of setting constraints in this example is based on Travis' > // proposal (v4) combined with some points from Randell's bug 18561 [3] > > var speakerStream; // speaker audio and video > var slidesStream; // video of slides > > pc.addStream(speakerStream); > pc.addStream(slidesStream); > // ... > > var outboundSpeakerStream = pc.localStreams > .getStreamById(speakerStream.id); > var speakerAudio = outboundSpeakerStream.audioTracks[0]; > var speakerVideo = outboundSpeakerStream.videoTracks[0]; > > speakerAudio.priority.request("very-high"); > speakerAudio.bitrate.request({ "min": 30, "max": 120, > "thresholdToNotify": 10 }); > speakerAudio.bitrate.onchange = speakerAudioBitrateChanged; > speakerAudio.onconstraintserror = failureToComply; > > speakerVideo.priority.request("medium"); > speakerVideo.bitrate.request({ "min": 500, "max": 1000, > "thresholdToNotify": 100 }); > speakerAudio.bitrate.onchange = speakerVideoBitrateChanged; > speakerVideo.onconstraintserror = failureToComply; > > var outboundSlidesStream = pc.localStreams > .getStreamById(slidesStream.id); > var slidesVideo = outboundSlidesStream.videoTracks[0]; > > slidesVideo.priority.request("high"); > slidesVideo.bitrate.request({ "min": 600, "max": 800, > "thresholdToNotify": 50 }); > slidesVideo.bitrate.onchange = slidesVideoBitrateChanged; > slidesVideo.onconstraintserror = failureToComply; > > > // 3. ***** Enable/disable on outbound tracks ***** > > // send same stream to two different peers > pcA.addStream(stream); > pcB.addStream(stream); > // ... > > // retrieve the *different* outbound streams > var streamToA = pcA.localStreams.getStreamById(stream.id); > var streamToB = pcB.localStreams.getStreamById(stream.id); > > // disable video to A and disable audio to B > streamToA.videoTracks[0].enabled = false; > streamToA.audioTracks[0].enabled = false; > > ====== > > Please comment and don't hesitate to ask if things are unclear. > > /Adam > > ---- > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2012Sep/0025.html > [2] > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/media-stream-capture/proposals/SettingsAPI_proposal_v4.html > [3] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15861**** > > ** ** >
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