- From: Jan-Ivar Bruaroey via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 21:22:06 +0000
- To: public-webrtc-logs@w3.org
jan-ivar has just created a new issue for https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main: == In-content device selection a mistake. Too complicated, leaks info == In hindsight, in-content device selection was a mistake. It's * **Too permissive**—assumes all devices granted up-front to work effectively (wo/reprompt) * **Too complicated**—having every site write a decent picker compatibly has been a failure: * Exhibit A: Changing camera **_or_** mic in [webrtc samples](https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/) re-prompts **_both_** in Firefox; flickers * Mobile devices typically can't open more than once device at a time ("stop-then-pick") * Stop-then-pick is an inferior user experience on desktops * Dealing with different browser permission models severely limits design (no previews) * **Leaks private info**—fails PING review https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/issues/640 * **Too limiting**—no path to privacy (can't avoid redundant re-prompts *after* user selection) The PING outlines the way forward in https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/issues/640#issuecomment-549540203: > Privacy-by-default flow: > > Initially site has access to no devices or device labels > > 1. site asks for category (or categories) of device > 2. browser prompts user for one, many or all devices > 3. site gains access to only the device, and device label, of the hardware the user selects. That's an in-chrome picker (_"in-chrome"_ = implemented in the browser). In-chrome pickers * **Are proven successful**—in [getDisplayMedia](https://jan-ivar.github.io/dummy/gdm.html) * **The way forward**—for speakers https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-output/pull/86 * **Remove the need to grant all devices** ❤️ * **Let UAs solve mobile** platforms that can’t open multiple devices (mute temporarily) * **Let UAs solve camera previews** maybe even in a (non-creepy) Brady Bunch grid! https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/pull/644 is my proposal for reshaping `getUserMedia` to serve this need, as well as solve https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/issues/648. Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/issues/652 using your GitHub account
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