- From: Tony Camero <tonycamerobiz@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:10:34 -0500
- To: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
- Cc: Marta Piekarska <marta@blockstream.io>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAJqDFUJ+ewBzPK-viR2Zpbyho0vt=PFG=ubtXAEAh-zmXCh6wQ@mail.gmail.com>
Does anyone see a time when non-human entities (eg Facebook) MUST yield to the choice of humans to leave or take their personal data? Seems it would require a huge shift toward elevating human sovereignty over fictions, and entirely new digital infrastructures... A pipe dream? On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote: > Straying somewhat from the subject line... > > RE: "User Informed approach: developing solutions with users in the room”. > > In human-mediated digitally-enhanced scenarios, the digital system > presents information, and the humans retain the responsibility and right to > decide. In purely algorithmic trading, the digital system can be left to > autopilot. But in both scenarios, the designer/developer community ought to > pay attention to Wiener's Laws: > > - http://aviationweek.com/blog/wiener-s-laws > - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/crash-how > -computers-are-setting-us-up-disaster > <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/crash-how-computers-are-setting-us-up-disaster> > > It's interesting that few who write about Wiener's Laws grasp that by > intentionally leaving Laws 1-16 blank, he was just emphasizing the > methodological significance of uncertainty. Or, at least this is my > interepretation. This is illustrated here > <https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/download/Projects/flow-syllabus/The+General+Direction+of+FLOW/The+Methodological+Significance+of+Uncertainty/WebHome/uncertainty_visualize_medium.png> > (and explained in detail here > <https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Projects/flow-syllabus/The+General+Direction+of+FLOW/The+Methodological+Significance+of+Uncertainty/> > ). > > Wiener's Laws have interesting application in diverse fields... including > e-commerce and e-payment systems: > http://www.themontrealreview.com/2009/Normal-Accidents-Livin > g-with-High-Risk-Technologies.php > http://sociology.yale.edu/people/charles-perrow > > Joseph Potvin > Executive Director, Xalgorithms Foundation > Mobile: 819-593-5983 > jpotvin@xalgorithms.org > https://www.xalgorithms.org > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Marta Piekarska <marta@blockstream.io> > wrote: > >> In my doctoral work I have been focusing on something that I call Used >> Informed approach. Maybe thats the wording you are looking for. >> >> Basically, what I did was shifted the focus of development of privacy and >> security tools so that you let the users (and in that case you don’t have >> to define user as human, users are also other machines that *use* your >> solutions) define what is the missing link between how X works and how it >> actually works. Then you find a way to bridge the gap. In a way instead of >> “developing solutions with users in mind” (user-centric approach), you can >> say that User Informed approach is “developing solutions with users in the >> room”. >> >> Have a good day >> m >> — >> Security Architect @ Blockstream >> >> mp@blockstream.com >> >> +491703311307 (Germany) >> +14159608938 (U.S.) >> Signal, Wickr (martap) >> >> > On Oct 10, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > On 10/10/2016 08:25 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote: >> >> See wording: http://mydata2016.org >> > >> >> From the site: >> > >> >> MyData is a human centered approach in personal data management that >> >> combines industry need to data with digital human rights. >> > >> >> Personal data has increasingly significant social, economic, and >> >> practical value. The EU’s recent General Data Protection Regulation >> >> changes the landscape in which organizations operate. Organizations >> >> around the globe are busy exploring the opportunities of human >> >> centric personal data. Whole industries such as energy, health & >> >> wellbeing, or finance, are already being disrupted by this trend. >> > >> > There are some pretty big names involved in the conference, and the >> > "human centric" terminology is used pretty heavily throughout. Maybe we >> > were too early in trying it and setting it aside. We should watch the >> > outcome of the conference and see if it there is now a strong up-tick in >> > usage. What we're working on certainly can be used for human-centric >> > initiatives... it's just that it's not only for humans. >> > >> > I'm sure this'll come up at our upcoming face to face. Doc Searls is one >> > of the speakers at MyData 2016 and he'll be at IIW, so we'll have to >> > pick his brain on the terminology. >> > >> > -- manu >> > >> > -- >> > Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >> > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> > blog: Rebalancing How the Web is Built >> > http://manu.sporny.org/2016/rebalancing/ >> > >> >> >> >
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