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Re: Wallet in Windows 10

From: Asbjørn Ulsberg <asbjorn@ulsberg.no>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:30:18 +0200
Message-ID: <CAEdRHi5s5vtAo0wQTU1Nbn2HDJw7m+viuJx_eo-FY_qbxHa03A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
Cc: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
2015-10-21 11:47 GMT+02:00 Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>:

> 2015-10-21 10:57 GMT+02:00 Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>:
>> I assume you meant "of course want 4.2 to happen right now" -- even if
>> some interests target 4.1 as the end-game.

Yes, of course. Sorry about the typo.

> On the IG list a week and a half ago I suggested that an effort be made
> towards a framework for "definitions of "digital wallet". 4.2 can be
> advanced without waiting if we all understand what the various camps agree
> and disagree about.

True, but it's very hard to get any leverage without the wallet owners
actually investing in and having some sort of ownership to the process
and end result.

> 4.1 [hopefully] won't happen

Fingers crossed!

>  and 4.2 in reality would require a "framework implementing/supporting a
> number of fundamentally different wallets and associated payments systems.

Yes. A protocol based on a common ontology would be needed.

> I rather expect local payments to become more like web-payments; that is: an
> increasing set of arbitrary payment options.

How are these supposed to interoperate, then, do you expect? Shouldn't
there be an underlying platform on which the different payment options
are just implementation and user interface details?

> The only way that *maybe* could change this would be a project supported by
> many different entities that also had the goal of unifying web and local
> payments.


> This would surely NOT be an W3C effort since there's no compelling reason
> excluding 99.999% of all potential parties from the party.

Yes, there's a lot of initiative happening locally now, but they will
soon enough end up on point 3 in my list, where momentum stops and
they start looking out of their municipality and across borders. Then
interoperability becomes important, and a W3C backed standard could
help them interoperate with other wallet owners on the open web
instead of through B2B integrations and dealings behind closed door

Asbjørn Ulsberg           -=|=-        asbjorn@ulsberg.no
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