- From: Madhu Nott @ The Payments Foundry <mnott@paymentsfoundry.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 20:14:26 -0400
- To: public-webpayments@w3.org
- Message-Id: <1401322466.4197.122663797.7C39CE23@webmail.messagingengine.com>
A key issue with carrier direct billing is what I call the 'balance sheet constraint'. Carriers have honed their business systems to facilitate and charge for customers' consumption of communication units (minutes, MB, etc.) When faced with the opportunity to facilitate and *underwrite* consumption of additional goods, the system will quickly fail to scale. I am certain people are working on it -- does anyone on the list know who has this in focus, and how they are proceeding? I'd imagine a companies like Bango would have something to do with it... Madhu Nott The Payments Foundry [1]mnott@paymentsfoundry.com On Tue, May 13, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Kumar McMillan wrote: Yep, this API was extracted from Mozilla’s current integration with Bango. However, there are no current plans on the platform team to implement the Direct Billing API. To answer your orginal question: the third parties you mention have explicit agreements with operators (such as AT&T) to bill customers on their respective direct billing systems. Some systems involve web services, some rely on operator-injected headers, and in most cases they just work by passing codes in SMS messages to identify the customer. Once a user has set up an initial purchase it’s pretty seamless after that. Kumar On May 13, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Andrew Bovingdon <[2]andy@bango.com> wrote: That’s a great direct API. Mozilla and Bango are partners and committed to delivering the highest quality direct billing around the world. From:Huang, Deqing [[3]mailto:deqing.huang@intel.com] Sent:13 May 2014 12:58 To:조경호 Cc:[4]public-webpayments@w3.org; Andrew Bovingdon Subject:RE: Direct Carrier Billing Maybe you will be interested, Mozilla also has a draft of Direct Billing API:[5]https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/Direct_Billing Regards, Deqing From:Andrew Bovingdon [[6]mailto:andy@bango.com] Sent:Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:20 PM To:조경호 Cc:[7]public-webpayments@w3.org Subject:RE: Direct Carrier Billing I recommend taking a look at the top two documents on[8]http://bango.com/contact/whitepapers/- i.e.: -Beware of BOB! Mobile payments in disguise -Direct Operator Billing versus Premium SMS Direct carrier billing is where the payment is conducted through a server to server call between the payment provider (such as Bango) and the carrier’s own billing platform. Not via messaging services (PSMS) or via 3^rdparty intermediaries. The 2 white papers above give a load of specifics. Beware of BOB also lists 5 tests to confirm it’s direct. Carriers are usually direct, although some have used PSMS due to limitations with older systems. Most of the app stores use Bango for direct carrier billing – e.g. Google, Microsoft, Amazon, BlackBerry, Mozilla etc. Google does a few themselves and Microsoft uses one other company I believe. Hope that helps. Andy. From:조경호[[9]mailto:khc2332@nbreds.com] Sent:07 May 2014 09:34 To:[10]public-webpayments@w3.org Subject:Direct Carrier Billing Just wondering something... I am little confused when it comes to the term 'Direct Carrier Billing'. I though Direct Carrier Billing only implemented by telecom companies such as At&t, Verizon wireless, T-mobile. However, there exist third-party direct carrier billers such as BilltoMobie, Boku, OpenMarket, Payfone, Zong. What does they do? References 1. mailto:mnott@paymentsfoundry.com 2. mailto:andy@bango.com 3. mailto:deqing.huang@intel.com 4. mailto:public-webpayments@w3.org 5. https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/Direct_Billing 6. mailto:andy@bango.com 7. mailto:public-webpayments@w3.org 8. http://bango.com/contact/whitepapers/ 9. mailto:khc2332@nbreds.com 10. mailto:public-webpayments@w3.org
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