Re: Web Payments Interest Group Charter draft ready for review

On 15 May 2014 23:50, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> On 05/15/2014 01:34 PM, Steven Rowat wrote:
> > On 2014-05-15, at 6:28 AM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> > wrote:
> >> The option to run the payments work in a closed group, except for
> >> the publication of drafts, is now on the table. This is concerning
> >
> > +1 Where is this proposal made? I can't see it in the links you sent.
> > The IG is so far listed as Public. ?
>
> """
> I would be happy to know if the payment industry is more likely going to
> be interested in working in public or internally as a closed group and
> query the community on regular basis through the publication of draft
> documents.
> """
>
> In the last bullet item in the list here:
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/community/webpaymentsigcharter/2014/05/15/first-draft-of-future-web-payments-interest-group-charter-published/
>
> > But IMO It already looks from the proposed Charter that the various
> > forms and arms of the existing financial services industry are being
> > overly recognized and served by the IG, with 'users' tacked on at
> > the end as sort of an afterthought, as if a revolution in the way
> > finances are carried on isn't going to happen. That may be true, but
> > it may not.
>
> Part of this could be fueled by the W3C wanting to attract as many new
> members as it can into the work. Keep in mind that W3C is going to have
> to bring on a couple of big members if this work is going to proceed.
> They need these new members because 1) there is a lot of work to be
> done, and W3C needs the money to accomplish that new work, and 2) we
> need to make sure that we have solid representation from the payment
> industry and that they're interested in implementing this stuff that
> we're proposing. If the option is not getting them onboard and not
> starting the work vs. getting them on board and running the work in a
> closed fashion, then that's going to be a hard decision to make for W3C.
>
> That said, I think it would be a disaster for W3C to run the official
> work behind closed doors. There should be enough organizations that want
> to run this work the way W3C runs most all of its other work; in full
> view of the public.
>

W3C is a member of openstand:

http://open-stand.org/principles/

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*Openness.* Standards processes are open to all interested and informed
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While some work may be done in private, I presume anything related to
*standards* would be made public?


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