Re: Strong authentication for PayPal versus WebPayments

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> On 13 May 2014, at 8:30 am, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 13 May 2014 00:03, David Nicol <davidnicol@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
>>> NASCAR isn't necessarily a problem for end-users. This more of a problem for programmers that have to write code for different authentication protocols. We have to keep these concerns loosely coupled.
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>> it's easy to imagine an intermediary who vets identity providers and publishes a resource that identity consumers
>> reference to  easily throw up a block of logos of approved providers. Do such not already exist? Businesswise, there are marketing and business-model problems, but it's a low-hanging fruit. "We address the NASCAR problem so you don't have to" could be the slogan.
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> I very much doubt it will go this way.  More likely you'll see certification for a price.  This was attempted to be rolled out with the original microsoft passport.  It used to cost (I think) $50,000 to be approved to passport, and there was a time when I thought that was just the way it was going to be, in fact I considered saving up the money.
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Very early days of web apps...

I imagine some of the "special Id check" systems providers, especially where it's useful to lower fraud related issues...

> Then OpenID came along, and promised more decentralized identity and it resonated with the community.  Tho I suspect the OpenID foundation are probably going to go down the IdP certification route again with tiered pricing, we will see.
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> Centralization in identity is perhaps an undesirable avenue for the web to go down, which is why I like WebID, it's totally decentralized.  I actually think one of the roles of government is to be an IdP, in fact they already offer passports.  They have been historically good in this role, and I hope it becomes a shared benefit of being a citizen, rather than a cost.
Hehe.  +1 ; well put.