- From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:37:52 -0400
- To: public-webpayments@w3.org
On 06/23/2014 05:54 PM, Adrian Hope-Bailie wrote: > The last thread prompted me to publish a document I have been > working on for sometime which provides some clearer background on my > motivations for push payments. > > I have put it on the OpenPayee website at: > > http://openpayee.org/push-payments-manifesto/ > > Comment and criticism encouraged :) Comments and criticism below :) > Payments made using any form of identity token which gives the payee > the ability to pull the payment out of the payer’s account are bad. Subscriptions are a good thing. You should clarify to state that "any token which gives the payee the ability to pull arbitrary payments out of the payer's account are bad". The PaySwarm demo has a capability that allows budgets to be assigned to a vendor, so you can do stuff like: "Allow this merchant to pull up to $5 from me per month at their discretion for the next 2 months". > Yes, that includes the majority of retail payments today and yet > there seems no co-ordinated plan to move away from this outdated > concept. There are many coordinated plans that have been put forward by governments, but the banks and card networks aren't biting. > fraud bankrupting small businesses This is a weak argument, I'd imagine the number of businesses that have gone out of business as a result of credit card fraud are quite low. > Push payments don’t require new payment networks, new regulations or > new technology just a standard way of closing this gap. All the banks and central banks that we have talked to view what we're doing here, and the use of the Web to transmit a payment as a new payment rail/network. I agree on the no new regulations bit. I disagree that new technology isn't needed (as any new standard constitutes a new technology). > flip the industry on its head We've made a conscious effort to re-iterate that what we're doing here is going to create standards that are non-disruptive to the existing players that adopt the technology. When you use phrases like "flip the industry on its head", it makes large companies very nervous and unwilling to work with you. :) The rest of the article is very good and almost completely aligned with what we're trying to accomplish here. Make sure you've read these articles to understand the similarities: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/web-payments-with-payswarm-identity-part-1-of-3/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/payswarm-part-2/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/web-payments-with-payswarm-purchasing-part-3-of-3/ -- manu -- Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/
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