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Re: HTTP Signatures draft published at IETF

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:36:44 -0400
Message-ID: <53D65FFC.1050602@openlinksw.com>
To: public-webpayments@w3.org, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
CC: Blaine Cook <romeda@gmail.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
On 7/27/14 8:12 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> They're not invalid, but establishing the context of the link is a bit tricky (since the payload of a request is usually anonymous; i.e., it doesn't have a URI).
>
> Whether that matters or not depends on what you're doing.
Mark,

Thanks for the quick response!

"Link:" in HTTP requests is a game-changer. It certainly solves the 
problem at hand re. a payload relation that associates a payload 
(originating from a browser) with the actual human of machine that 
instigated the payload. For example, in HTTP, one could then represent 
an <http://example.org/action#onBehalfOf> relation via the following triple:

Link: <http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this> ; 
rel="http://example.org/action#onBehalfOf"


Kingsley
>
> Cheers,
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> On 27 Jul 2014, at 6:27 am, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:
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>> On 5/9/13 8:05 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> From's semantics and syntax are well-defined, and they are in use. If you want to do this, I'd suggest defining a new header, or a new link relation (to use in Link); From isn't going to fly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>> All,
>>
>> Coming back to the issue above, is the use of "Link:" in HTTP requests valid? I ask because, It could resolve this issue in a way that prevents custom header bloat.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley
>>>
>>> On 09/05/2013, at 7:18 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excerpts from Kingsley Idehen's message of 2013-05-08 20:29:19 +0000:
>>>>> On 5/7/13 2:12 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>>>> On 7 May 2013 19:01, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com
>>>>>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 05/07/2013 04:04 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah, I'll ping Julian Reschke or Mark Nottingham about it to see if
>>>>>>> we can update the HTTP header field easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been proponents of this for many years e.g. Toby, Nathan,
>>>>>>> Kingsley, myself ... just need to get the spec tweaked to
>>>>>>> distinguish between strings and URIs.
>>>>>>     Do one of you want to take the lead on this? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, I would be happy to.  Kingsley already asked Mark Nottingham
>>>>>> about this last month.  Im unsure what the most productive next steps
>>>>>> should be.
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> Another dimension to the same issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can loosen the HTTP spec requirements for "From:" without disrupting
>>>>> existing products that assume the header value is an Email address.
>>>>>
>>>>> All:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have any data about how broad current use of "From:" actually is?
>>>> +1 on allowing URI in "From:" request header :)
>>>>
>>>> I set it myself to email for about 2 years now using firefox extension: http://www.garethhunt.com/modifyheaders
>>>>
>>>> I also mentioned it in this email with link to work of Blaine Cook on *Privacy-over-Webfinger*
>>>> https://groups.google.com/group/webfinger/browse_thread/thread/52599662c273a043
>>>>
>>>> warning: mentioned thread got mixed with another thread so few messages went off topic first!
>>> --
>>> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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>> -- 
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen	
>> Founder & CEO
>> OpenLink Software
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> --
> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
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Regards,

Kingsley Idehen	
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OpenLink Software
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